MAX boost on B18B????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 02:22 PM
  #1  
lsvtec101's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 0
From: rhode island
Default MAX boost on B18B????

wHATS the max psi i can run on a teg b18b with 13k on the motor.... Thanx
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 02:23 PM
  #2  
93LSivic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 5,608
Likes: 1
From: All around, De/Pa
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

I hate these questions
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 02:26 PM
  #3  
lsvtec101's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 0
From: rhode island
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (93LSivic)

whyz that i dont want to blow my motor... so why not a better place to ask than here?
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 02:40 PM
  #4  
not so civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,712
Likes: 1
From: gravity rides everything...everything will fall, se GA/ne FL
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

it's because these Q's get thrown left and right...if you observe the topics everyday, you'll understand. i'll be nice though and tell you not to run much more boost than what kits preset their wastegates. any higher without a good fuel setup just may break something. it's all in tuning i guess you could say.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 02:51 PM
  #5  
SiRkid's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,391
Likes: 0
From: Canada City
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

try a search next time..but yeah.at least your nice..... stock block..10 psi i would say.people have gone higher...but just to be safe.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 03:10 PM
  #6  
supergreenNA1's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 726
Likes: 1
From: aliso viejo, ca, usa
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

with the correct tuning, 12 psi will last you a year or 2. but i wouldn't go any higher than that. in fact.. i would run 10 psi around town and only turn it up to 12 on the weekends or at the track. but what do i know??
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 03:13 PM
  #7  
2K_TEG's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 4,121
Likes: 0
From: in the LEAVES, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (supergreenSol)

with the correct tuning, 12 psi will last you a year or 2. but i wouldn't go any higher than that. in fact.. i would run 10 psi around town and only turn it up to 12 on the weekends or at the track. but what do i know??
whatever, I think you could go 2 BAR easy.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 03:29 PM
  #8  
jinxproof99's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,141
Likes: 0
From: VIRGINIA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

i'd say with that monster tach and the short shifter your good for about 28-29 lbs of boost. just be careful.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 04:04 PM
  #9  
supergreenNA1's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 726
Likes: 1
From: aliso viejo, ca, usa
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (2K_TEG)

whatever, I think you could go 2 BAR easy.
when someone asks what they can boost on a b18b with 13k on the motor and doesn't mention the internals.... we have to assume it's a stock engine.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 04:45 PM
  #10  
TurboInteg95's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 1,584
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (supergreenSol)

I'm thinking he was being sarcastic.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 04:49 PM
  #11  
dustin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 14,500
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento, CA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (TurboInteg95)

meeeillion psi
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 09:23 PM
  #12  
Ri5e's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,261
Likes: 0
From: Northern, VA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (dustin)

I ran 13 PSI for a whole year. It finally blew when my deltacrapgate creeped to 16 PSI+. Running a Tial now! Damn you turbonetics, damn you!!!
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 12:55 AM
  #13  
SIK IN DA HED's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,415
Likes: 0
From: RAIDER NATION, CA, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (BG Boost)

dont do it. a b18b is the worst engine to boost. youre better off getting a supercharger. im boostin 5lbs on my b18b and its still slow. im going to go with a jrsc. try it.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 04:45 PM
  #14  
hondaeg5's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: westchester, ny, usa
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (dlplayboy)

dont do it. a b18b is the worst engine to boost. youre better off getting a supercharger. im boostin 5lbs on my b18b and its still slow. im going to go with a jrsc. try it.
why??
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 04:48 PM
  #15  
DIRep972's Avatar
Smarter than you
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 8,240
Likes: 2
From: Third Coast, united states
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (Matthew)

With 87 octane, 14 degrees of timing advance and smaller injectors, 2 psi.
Seriously though, your plans for fuel, timing and spark control dictact the motor's life span, not the motor itself.
Here's a link to a LS running 20psi, a block guard, and probably more tuning than Boeing's engineering department.
-matthew
oops, forgot the link: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=138345


[Modified by Matthew, 12:24 AM 6/6/2002]
ACTUALLY, that car wasnt even tuned with a wideband, BUT, it was tuned by a very experienced tuner, they just pulled over after runs and checked the plugs for detonation and thats about it... crazy huh
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 04:49 PM
  #16  
DIRep972's Avatar
Smarter than you
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 8,240
Likes: 2
From: Third Coast, united states
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (DIRep972)

id say 25psi max, but i dont know if the apex seals will hold up after that.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:52 PM
  #17  
rioninja's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,331
Likes: 2
From: Philadelphia, PA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

Most people seem to agree that 10psi is the maximum if you wanna keep it safe.

BUT, i also hate these questions. There really IS NO RIGHT ANSWER. I have a stock 2nd gen B16a in my car with stock LS pistons pressed onto the rods. I'm personally planning on running well over 10psi, when i finish my electronic boost controller. My friend has an old HF D15 block w/ vtec head, and hes been running 12psi and beating the **** out of it for months. He's running the vafc mod w/ DSM 450s. The head is over 100k, and the block has probably much more than that. I'm pointing this out because the D15s are supposed to be the weakest d-motors of all, the rods look like toothpicks. Maybe its just a tribute to how well the vafc mod works, who knows.

Everyone already said it, but i'll say it again. "ITS ALL ABOUT THE TUNING".
A motor thats detonating can blow at 5psi. If you tune it well you could probably push 3Opsi on a stock block, but if it detonated once it would explode into a million pieces.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2002 | 02:06 PM
  #18  
SIK IN DA HED's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,415
Likes: 0
From: RAIDER NATION, CA, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (hondaeg5)

dont do it. a b18b is the worst engine to boost. youre better off getting a supercharger. im boostin 5lbs on my b18b and its still slow. im going to go with a jrsc. try it. why??
i was just kiddin.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:23 PM
  #19  
Turbo Laser's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, Florida, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (dlplayboy)

An badly tuned engine will blow at 0 psi....B18B stay at or under 10 psi with an AFC, higher than that and
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 07:27 PM
  #20  
20lb.teg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 356
Likes: 0
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (NOCARLOSER)

Well, a car actually WON"T blow at 0 psi, or 1psi for that matter becasue if you ever took chemistry, or just know about the much tuning and cars, you know that there is always 14.7 psi on the earth also know as 1 bar, or 1 atmosperic pressure at all times, so at that's why you can take a boost gauge and it stays around 0 calibrated BOOST but when the engine turns on it goes into vaccum there is always 1 bar on the earth just boost gauges are calibrated not to see it... But not to sound like too much of a broken record just make sure you spend the money and get it tuned, RIGHT. you'll save alittle bit in the long run by not having to buy it all over again and rebuild it because you blew it up. and work with a machine shop that either races turbo honda's or works with a lot of turbo honda's and run your setup past them, they can give you some very helpfull insight on this kind of information. Hope this helps.

Later,

Sean C.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 07:46 PM
  #21  
*Boostwerks*'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 9,455
Likes: 3
From: I heart tool, US
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

one BILLION psi....mmmuuuhhhahaaaaaaaaahhahahahhhahahahahhh!!! !!!!!

Ok enough Austin Powers
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 08:31 PM
  #22  
Turbo Laser's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
From: Tallahassee, Florida, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (Bryson)

0 PSI OF BOOST...I think everyone else took that as it was intended.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2002 | 04:28 AM
  #23  
Charlie Moua's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,561
Likes: 0
From: MN
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (aemcivic_02917)

i'd say no more than 10psi on stock internals. but you better tune that bitch before you decide to run at the track
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2002 | 05:49 AM
  #24  
Speed PHreak's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,906
Likes: 0
From: NC, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (RioNinja)

My friend has an old HF D15 block w/ vtec head
Ummmm yeah. I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...

Not to be an *** and sorry for derailing the subject. Just curious what VTEC head he has on that 8 valve HF engine. Did he swap out pistons and rods, to accomidate a 16 valve head? I know the HF makes like 60 HP, but it's a torquey little engine. 5K RPM rev-limit though that kinda sucks. Mini-me HF huh? Guess it could be an ultra-cheap junkyard project.

I'm sure he still gets like 40+ miles to the gallon even with the boost, but why an HF?


[Modified by Speed PHreak, 2:55 PM 7/30/2002]
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2002 | 05:54 AM
  #25  
FOrSfEd's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,719
Likes: 0
From: TurBlowVille, SC, USA
Default Re: MAX boost on B18B???? (Charlie)

I'm working on a new set up now that I will keep a factory bottom end and I plan to be running 19psi daily driven and hopefully should be making around 350 whp, but belive me there will be alot of tuning that will be involved so again I say you can run high psi just as long as you spend the time in tuning everything right.
Lee


[Modified by Rex2nv, 2:55 PM 7/30/2002]
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:02 AM.