bnut510

ive been taking my sweet time on finishing up my build on this lsv setup. so yesterday i had some time to work on the motor and tried to fit the dowel pins on the block to the head. i have GE dowel pins btw, and i found that it fits to the ls block perfectly, but when i fit it to the b16a head, the holes ON THE HEAD are a little small. o yea and the dowel pins are fitted on the intake side since there was no fitting for the exhaust side to match on the head to the block. what did u guys use to make the hole bigger? i dont have a drill press so if i did the work myself at home, it wouldnt be accurate. is there any other way to do this? or should i just bring it back to the machine shop and have them handle it for me? i just want to finish this up now that im getting more anxious. thanks for any help in advance


Modified by bnut510 at 5:13 PM 7/23/2007

bnut510

bump for some help. i thought the GE dowels would fit with no mods needed except to the gasket. looked at the GEvtec conversion instructions from somewhere here on the search thread but it says that it should fit. im confusedddd outta my mind

JDMB20TDA

I alo used them on the intake side, Just torqued them down with the headstuds and they went in w/o a problem...
Did you make sure the holes were free of obstruction

bnut510

so do u mean that it wont fit by just pushing them in? they need a little force? its free from any obstruction though i checked. the block and head was all done up by a machine shop so everything is freshly surfaced and lookin good. bump for some more help??

bnut510

ttt helpp. search showed nothing about GE dowel pins not fitting. back to the machine shop it is?

JDMB20TDA

please provide a picture if possible

wrayzor

aren't the dowel pins different sizes on each side?

bnut510

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrayzor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aren't the dowel pins different sizes on each side? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes they are. bump for help

Slammd Sol

Are you installing them in the correct location? They dont go in the open holes in the block. They are supposed to go over the head studs on the exhaust side. Look at the holes where the head studs go in the block on the exhaust side and you will see what I'm talking about.

Also wouldn't hurt if you read the directions that came with the G.E. LS-V kit.

bnut510

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slammd Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you installing them in the correct location? They dont go in the open holes in the block. They are supposed to go over the head studs on the exhaust side. Look at the holes where the head studs go in the block on the exhaust side and you will see what I'm talking about.

Also wouldn't hurt if you read the directions that came with the G.E. LS-V kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i read the ge install kit today actually hahaha and im at work right now so im not 100% sure till i go home and look at where exactly im placing the dowels. LOL thanks for the genius advice, im gonna check, take some pics, and repost. thanks for the help tho

Slammd Sol

Heres a pic to help out from when I did my LS-V:

StolenTeg

I use mine on the 2 outter hole and they fit in no problem, both head and block. The GE dowel pin are made so that no machining to the hole is require

SPOOLINmatt

yeah your just in the wrong holes, places your dowels big end up over the outer exhaust side studs and youll be ready.

JDMB20TDA

Mine are in the inake side, and no problem with them either...

bnut510

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slammd Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres a pic to help out from when I did my LS-V:

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thanks man, that pic really helped alot. i didnt get a chance to take some pics yesterday but i will when i get a chance to. so everything is ok now, i was in the wrong hole like u guys said. with that done, i was reading up on the oem ls gasket that i should use a 14mm bit to drill out the gasket for the dowel pin to fit? sorry im a noob at building a lsv

Slammd Sol

If you have the Golden Eagle kit, the head gasket dowel pins holes are already bored out for you.

bnut510

im not using a GE hg tho? im using a oem ls hg. it was late last night when i was playing around with the motor, and it seemed like the dowels wouldnt fit over the hg but ill check it again tonight and see what happens. so the only reason y people are drilling the stock hg is because they are using stock dowel pins?

Slammd Sol

If you don't have the GE kit, then you will need to bore out the head gasket for the dowels to fit.

agrn93ls

i had to sand/grind down my GE dowels a lil on my LS/Vtec setup. they fit a lil too tight outta the box. has help up fine over 2 years, well till i blew the poo outta the #1 rod bearing anyway.