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Old 01-27-2009, 10:59 AM
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Default Let's play a game! Name this engine based on fuel delivery!

LOL. I know this should technically be in the EFI tuning section, but I figured it would get a little more interest here.

This is a gentlemen in another state that has a supercharged RSX-S. (I know, I know, I just told you the engine, but this is too comedic to resist.) He was complaining about a knock count he was picking up at just under atmospheric on the high cam.

He shot me over the calibration he was running (a tune over the internet from someone), and a datalog of the issue.

Here's what the high cam fueling looks like (for all cam angles, BTW).



Now, what engine in the world uses (nearly) the same exact fuel values for the same load at every RPM?

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Wow... That must run SPECTACULAR!
Old 01-27-2009, 11:32 AM
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The best thing is, this guy is praised as some tuning god over on another forum.

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Derek, you are a mean SOB. :p
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I know this engine.

It is the one in the CoUpe


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wow.....
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Originally Posted by 93turbo16
I know this engine.

It is the one in the CoUpe

This engine wishes it was in the coupe!

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Wow. I'm not a tuner by any means, but I would like to think that a professional "tuner" knows HOW to tune a car.
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936 ftmfw
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wow.. just.. wow <_<
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amazing. The afr's must be all over the place..
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LOL.

Derek, tell me he inverted the timing map too.
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Default Re: Let's play a game! Name this engine based on fuel delivery!

Originally Posted by BMo Tuning
Lmfao
Don't hate. We all know you wish you could t00n that well.
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Wow Derek you just made my night, Im no expert, but I think armour could make a better map than this one LOL
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Don't hate. We all know you wish you could t00n that well.
I do
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Default Re: Let's play a game! Name this engine based on fuel delivery!

Originally Posted by SilverEk3dr
amazing. The afr's must be all over the place..
That's the funny thing.

You ask what AFR's look like at WOT/boost, and he replies "Look at the datalog, it's perfect flat line at 11.5:1!"

...The OEM RSX wideband doesn't real any lower. Anything richer than 11.5 is displayed as 11.5.

Internet tuning, FTW.

Originally Posted by SovXietday
LOL.

Derek, tell me he inverted the timing map too.
The timing map actually looks OK. The guy who tuned this car is semi-local to me, and got a hold of one of my calibrations a while back when I tuned HIS car, so I can only imagine he picked up the timing map tricks from me.

...But the flat line fuel curve? WTF?

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Must be the best engine in the world, it has a totally flat torque curve!
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Originally Posted by tony1
Must be the best engine in the world, it has a totally flat torque curve!
100% flat torque curve! Zero variation at all!



...My personal car has a pretty flat TQ curve, and the map looks NOTHING like that one.

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Default Re: Let's play a game! Name this engine based on fuel delivery!

If everything is working as it should mechanically, your fuel curve will look like your torque curve (assuming you have the same a/f ratio across). Most likely your torque curve isn't THAT flat.
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Originally Posted by tony1
If everything is working as it should mechanically, your fuel curve will look like your torque curve (assuming you have the same a/f ratio across). Most likely your torque curve isn't THAT flat.
I know.

I'm just amazed this guy makes money doing **** like this.

No engine I have ever tuned, or seen, has ever had fuel demands that looked like that.

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Oh, definitely, i'm not saying it's right by any means. lol

This wouldn't be from a member on CRSX that boasts about his tunes over the internet would it?
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Originally Posted by tony1
Oh, definitely, i'm not saying it's right by any means. lol

This wouldn't be from a member on CRSX that boasts about his tunes over the internet would it?
I'ma shoot you a PM, Tony.

:D

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