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Here’s a pic of my fuel cut settings. Hope this helps.
thanks bud, we tried 4 or 5 different settings before we found a smooth solution. after 3 or 4 tries with no luck, i asked him to just set it at 3% and 1200 to see what would happen. he also decided to lower delay to the minumum, raise load to 246 (from 213) and made my rev limiters fuel and ignition instead of just ignition. not sure which one of those changes netted the result but now it works lol.
Originally Posted by 2x0
I would try reducing the cut delay, and check to make sure your TPS reading is actually 0% or close to that when you are off throttle.
After getting the tune cleaned up, a friend and I headed to the local 1/8th mile to have some fun. I wasnt trying to push the car or get a certain time (although 8's would have been nice) I just wanted to see what mph the car could trap to get an idea of what it could run if slicked up with a good launch. First run was a 9.6 @ 88 mph with a 2.7 60ft lol. From there my times got better, but my mph went down a little as the night went on. Best time was a 9.3 @ 87 - nothing to write home about but the mph is pretty solid for a 2750-2800 lb (with driver, full tank, tools and a system) full weight car with a stock engine and a little t3. I lost 3/4 races. 2 of those were dialed in 7.5 cars with slicks and one was a 2014 srt8 charger with bolt ons (prob 500 hp) and my one win was a 2013-2014 camaro SS. It was a solid race, i treed him, he out 60ft'd me and started to pass me at the 330, I caught 3rd gear and pulled about a car length by the traps. Felt good doing work on a 426 hp merica muscle car with a driver that thought he had a surefire win being staged next to a 90s civic with stock hubcaps and a loud exhaust lol. Heres a pic of the slips (handwritten was first pass, printer wasnt working.) By the way, im on 185/65/14 continentials and have blown shocks on all 4 corners
EDIT: the white timeslip shows the camaros time, not mine i ran a 9.3 @ 87 that run
Has anyone managed to wire an external shift light by using the CEL wire? My tuner set my shift light in Neptune and its nice but hard to see and I would like to have a brighter bulb. I was thinking about getting a basic proform or autometer and splicing into the wire from the ECU to the gauge cluster. My tuner said its fine but i need to use a relay. Any tips or anything else i need to know? thanks in advance.
Has anyone managed to wire an external shift light by using the CEL wire? My tuner set my shift light in Neptune and its nice but hard to see and I would like to have a brighter bulb. I was thinking about getting a basic proform or autometer and splicing into the wire from the ECU to the gauge cluster. My tuner said its fine but i need to use a relay. Any tips or anything else i need to know? thanks in advance.
Just wire it up how you wire anything with a relay. The wire feeding the CEL circuit would be your trigger.
whats up guys. Ive made a few moves with the car, nothing crazy, just some fun stuff. I wired up a shift light (which i cannot seem to get to work), i bought some 23x8x13 hoosiers mounted on some circle track steel wheels and bought some exhaust components because my current setup drones terribly and its driving me nuts. Some friends and I took the car to the 1/8 track last night with the slicks and it did great, faster than i expected. First hit is the yellow slip and my first ever pass on slicks. At 10psi of tire pressure, I cut a 1.95 60 ft and when i shifted in to 3rd, the car pulled hard left and if i hadnt let off i wouldve hit the wall. I coasted to a 8.7 @ 69mph. For reference, the car i raced was a 300whp h2b hatch on m5 with cut doors and 24.5s. Next race was awesome, i got the right lane (preferred lane at this track) and cut a 1.8 60 and went on to a 8.2 @ 89mph. I was pretty excited. Unfortunately my friends werent sure if it was my civic on this run and didnt get video. The third pass was vs a c5 Z06 with an exhaust. Ill let the video explain that race lol. I was in the left lane unfortunately but i kept it straight this run. I went 8.3 @ 89mph. Anyway, heres some pics and video. Enjoy!
Nice man! Those slicks look good on your car. You must have a different offset on those wheels, the circle wheels I had on my old hatch didn’t stick out as far. Are you going to run 1/4 mile too?
Nice man! Those slicks look good on your car. You must have a different offset on those wheels, the circle wheels I had on my old hatch didn’t stick out as far. Are you going to run 1/4 mile too?
Thanks man, I think so too. Im not sure of the offset/backspacing but they stick out ALOT, the sides of my car are covered in **** from the water box lol. Unfortunately the only 1/4 mile tracks near me are Rockingham, which is a 2hr drive, and Zmax, which is only 15 minutes, but they pretty much just have NHRA events. The few test and tunes Zmax has had were a **** show. Cars were getting loose between the 60 and 330 mark from lack of prep and drivers were literally packing up because it was too dangerous lol. The good news is that Street Car Takeover is coming to Zmax in July and they should have it prepped pretty good. I was planning to race in the 12.0 index but they require DOT tires and full interior. No way my car is running 12.0 with full interior and radials lol. Fortunately theyll have a test and tune between classes so ill try to get a few runs in.
Benson has an 1/8th mile track that I've really liked, but it's still 2+ hours away for you.
yea they have a nice track for sure. its actually 3.5 hrs from me lol..... a little too far. i usually go to mooresville because its where i went growing up and i now live 15-20 minutes from there which is super convenient when driving both my vehicles. i wish rockingham was closer and i wish they would let poor people run at zmax... oh well
Well, I got a chance to run the car down the 1/4 and she did great! I met a guy at a gas station that has a 800whp s550 mustang and we got to talking about cars. He told me that zmax has test and tunes this summer so I went this past Friday to see how I could do. First run was pretty rough. The sun was at my back and it was so bright I couldn't see my shift light. Normally I could just listen to the engine and shift based on sound but I wasn't used to wearing a helmet and could barely hear anything. I spun though 1st and hit the limiter pretty hard and didn't shift my best on the other shifts either. Still, the car went 12.59 on the first hit which was right on par with my previous 1/8 mile times. I let the car cool for about an hour and then gave it another go. Even with a worse 60ft, I managed a 12.50 and it was 1 mph faster. Next run track prep was starting to deteriorate and I spun 1st and 2nd and went 12.83. The car I raced on this run was a 550whp c6 and you can see how much he struggled to get traction. After that run I was checking the car and noticed my alternator belt was coming apart and had already slightly damaged my air filter. I was gonna call it a night but my friends offered to run to a parts store while I wrenched. We got the car running again and by now it was probably 10pm and much cooler out. I staged next to a 620whp del sol and him and I both ran pb's. He hit 10s and I went 12.40s. Overall it was the most stressful time ive ever had at the track but it was fun nonetheless. Here's a pic of the timeslips and the car and I'll post videos as soon as I get them edited. Thanks for viewing!
Nice man. Looks like you could really improve your 60ft time. What air pressure are you running in the slicks? I’ve found that 7-8psi works best for me, with a good 2nd or 3rd gear burnout and I have no issues cutting 1.6x 60ft times. Also preloading the clutch and messing with launch control settings based on track conditions all make a big difference.
Nice man. Looks like you could really improve your 60ft time. What air pressure are you running in the slicks? I’ve found that 7-8psi works best for me, with a good 2nd or 3rd gear burnout and I have no issues cutting 1.6x 60ft times. Also preloading the clutch and messing with launch control settings based on track conditions all make a big difference.
Yea my 60 fts are definitely in need of improvement lol. I think your right, I need to try 7.5 next time at the track, it seems to be the best for most guys. My first run was 9.5 psi and my last 3 were at 9psi and i spun through first on every run. Part of that was track prep but I was also scared of hooking too well and breaking something lol. For burnouts I do 2nd gear for a few seconds but i only had one solid burnout all night and it was on my first run. Thanks for all the tips, I put them to practice next time out.
Finally got these videos edited. The video with the go pro facing rearward is my first run. In the other lane is 550whp c6. The grainy cell phone video is of the same run. If you listen closely you can hear the announcer. Everyone at this track is very "America **** Yea" and the announcer was talking about my burnout being a "showoff" , he cheers when the vette does a burnout and then says his money is on the corvette lol. Now i wish i had cut a better light and 60ft lol. Anyway, the in car video is my 2nd run which was a 12.50. Im still a noob with these cameras and i either didnt turn them on correctly before runs or the battery died, so i didnt get footage of all the runs. Anyway. Enjoy.
Lately ive been bouncing around the idea of making more power and ive decided to start collecting parts to do so. At the moment im making 320ish whp and id like to be around 430-460whp. i think i have a pretty good idea of what i need to upgrade to make that much but id like to run it past the HT community for any thoughts or experiences or anything i might be forgetting. Here is a list of what my current build consist of, and in bold, what i think i should replace/upgrade
stock b18b block....... upgrading to Nippon 81.5 turbo pistons and Scat rods. (Also considering Speedfactory, Eagle, Manley, and Skunk 2 Alpha rods)
stock b18b head/cams
Supertech 77lb springs and titanium retainers
ARP head studs
Turbonetics T3 Super 60 .63 A/R......... Either Garrett T3/T4 57 trim .63 A/R or Journal bearing STC Hunter .63 A/R
cast iron manifold
2.5 charge piping
unknown intercooler (core is about 27x8x3)
Turbosmart 38mm gate
Turbosmart BOV
Southbay 1000cc injectors
stock fuel lines/filter...............i feel like i should upgrade filter but dont know
Xenocron 255lph pump..........I will need to add a relay
stock regulator................will upgrade, open to suggestions
Before you suggest a ball bearing turbo, remember that i am on a budget. I could probably justify a used ball bearing unit (sup boosted94gsr) but the cost of water line components on top of the $500-600 for the BB chra would be over the top for my purposes. Anyway, let me know what you guys think.
Edit: I will also be adding a Speedfactory catch can
Just my $.02 (if that's anything to ya), I went from Journal Bearing to BB and I'll never look back.. If you're going to go the route of getting another turbo, wait, save the extra coin and go BB, you wont regret it I promise BTW I bought a full GT water line kit for like $130 shipped and it has everything you need (assuming you get a Garrett GT turbo). I think a better flowing GS-R head would really help you out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you need to upgrade fuel lines, filter or regulator for ~400whp. What fuel are you using? Cold side intercooler piping is 2.5"?
Just my $.02 (if that's anything to ya), I went from Journal Bearing to BB and I'll never look back.. If you're going to go the route of getting another turbo, wait, save the extra coin and go BB, you wont regret it I promise BTW I bought a full GT water line kit for like $130 shipped and it has everything you need (assuming you get a Garrett GT turbo). I think a better flowing GS-R head would really help you out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you need to upgrade fuel lines, filter or regulator for ~400whp. What fuel are you using? Cold side intercooler piping is 2.5"?
No need to upgrade most of those items unless using E85 fuel, regardless of power. I would still change the OEM regulator. Those fitting kits work on most turbines except Turbonetics, IHI, and PTE.
What fuel are you planning to run? Getting mid 400whp out of a straight non vtec ls is going to be a chore, it’s would be much easier if you went with a vtec head. If you stuck with non vtec you’ll likely need a set of camshafts, and better flowing tubular turbo manifold to go along with the other parts you mentioned.
Just my $.02 (if that's anything to ya), I went from Journal Bearing to BB and I'll never look back.. If you're going to go the route of getting another turbo, wait, save the extra coin and go BB, you wont regret it I promise BTW I bought a full GT water line kit for like $130 shipped and it has everything you need (assuming you get a Garrett GT turbo). I think a better flowing GS-R head would really help you out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you need to upgrade fuel lines, filter or regulator for ~400whp. What fuel are you using? Cold side intercooler piping is 2.5"?
believe me, i know BB is better and i know i would enjoy it more. unfortunately, i am poor lol. im trying to satisfy my addiction with the least amount of money possible. as for the GSR head, yes it would be better. vtec heads make sexier sounds and make more power, but they are expensive. at minumum i would be looking at 300-500 for the head, 150ish for a ls/vtec kit and i would have to buy new ARP head studs. race car parts add up quick, so im pretending my budget is less than it is, that way when i inevitably have to spend a little extra, ill still be ok. 10-4 about using stock lines and filter. i know i could get away with the stock regulator but id like to have rock steady fuel pressure to make my tuners life easier. ill be using Shell 93 octane and my cold side piping is also 2.5 inch.
Originally Posted by TheShodan
No need to upgrade most of those items unless using E85 fuel, regardless of power. I would still change the OEM regulator. Those fitting kits work on most turbines except Turbonetics, IHI, and PTE.
Are there any regulators you recommend? id like to reuse the stock fuel rail and fuel lines if possible.
Originally Posted by boosted94gsr
What fuel are you planning to run? Getting mid 400whp out of a straight non vtec ls is going to be a chore, it’s would be much easier if you went with a vtec head. If you stuck with non vtec you’ll likely need a set of camshafts, and better flowing tubular turbo manifold to go along with the other parts you mentioned.
Ill probably stick with Shell 93 octane pump gas. theres only one E85 station within 50 miles of me I know its more work to get numbers out of an LS but i just cant pull it off financially at this time. A vtec head is probably in my future, just not right now. same with getting a tubular mani, and cams, they would be great i just want to make power on a budget for right now.
Also what do you guys think about connecting rod options? I know manley h beams are the go-to nowadays but is there anything wrong with SF, Scat, or Eagle? All the options i listed are $330-390 and i dont mind spending that extra $60 if there's a clear winner. Speedfactory claims to be the lightest (515g) and rated for 900whp. At $370, thats a good bargain. Scats come with the Nippon piston/rod combo i found on ebay, and at $343 theyre pretty cheap, but i dont know much about them. Any thoughts?
03-29-2018, 03:09 PM
re: K20z1ej1's "Hunter" turbo B18B build thread
i ran a 9.3 @ 87 that run
I know its more work to get numbers out of an LS but i just cant pull it off financially at this time. A vtec head is probably in my future, just not right now. same with getting a tubular mani, and cams, they would be great i just want to make power on a budget for right now.