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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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NEVER buy a used timing belt tensioner.

I did this and my brand new JG pro series head is toast
The belt skipped 5 teeth and bam...
All the valves are bent and I have yet to find the damage to the new pistons.....

Just a little rant and and caution to future engine builders.




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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

Damn... Sorry to hear it.

Ill try to keep that in mind.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

In fact, don't ever buy used parts period. You don't know how much life it has left. Buy new ones from me.

Note: Used engine component parts that is considered a wear item like timing belt, water pump, oil pump, oil seals. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy used cam seals.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

damn kyle you have GOT to be kidding me. did you just not drop your new motor in? is your car EVER going to run again?
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (Trigun)

hehe this is my third motor soon to be 4th maybe...
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

The extra $40.00 would have saved your head =/ How much did you pay for a used tensioner?
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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40 bucks :/

Ive learned my lesson. No more used parts, EVER.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (len)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In fact, don't ever buy used parts period. You don't know how much life it has left. Buy new ones from me.

Note: Used engine component parts that is considered a wear item like timing belt, water pump, oil pump, oil seals. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy used cam seals. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree. Len can vouch for me and say everything on my new rebuild is new, with the exception of the sensors. I didnt have to but I even went as far as buying some new bolts in some areas of the car. Every hose, gasket, seal on my car is all OEM brand new. Even the spring tensionor is brand new on my car. It cost alot, but it'll be worth it.

Plus, len is the guy to go to for OEM honda-parts.

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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (Arturbo)

ooo I just sold a tensioner to someone a couple months ago, hope he doesn't have any problems
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

You live and learn. Good luck with your next build if there is one
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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yup...replaced almost everything under my hood when it was rebuilt...especially the timing belt (despite the fact that it still had less than 10k miles on it)
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by intekragsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No more used parts, EVER. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with you 100%! to USED parts. Everyone should buy new parts if possible and save yourself the headaches in the future.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

Sorry to hear that. If I was home I would help with the rebuild but im not. 10 days though WOOT!!


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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by intekragsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive learned my lesson. No more used parts, EVER. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sometimes we just have to learn from experience.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (Prelude Vtec 23)

sorry to hear. good luck with it all.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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**** when i rebuild mine i dont re use **** from my own motor. i run all new timing belt, upper and lower gasket kits etc.. sorry to hear about your motor!!
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (MotorMatrix.com)

I agree, it's always better to use new parts, but whoever built the engine should've noticed that the belt wasn't tight enough. Once the tensioner is locked down it won't move. If the belt slipped then it wasn't tightened right to begin with...
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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I have to agree with Tony on this one. I personally dont think the tensioner itself did this.
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (ninesecrx)

yea ditto on the last couple posts, I crank down on mine and have a hard time getting it off..I know mine is good
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (Foozball26)

there are still retards out there that buy napa timing belts and re-use as much **** as possible

i have bought used cam gears and whatnot, but everything new for the other parts.

you sometimes just need to learn first person perspective to understand why people buy new parts because your cheap or used part is toast and cause damage to your motor

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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

Thats shitty but it shouldn't slip weather it's used or not as long as it was tightened properly.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 06:26 AM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

i have a bunch of reused parts on my motor. no problem here. i guess it helps if the motor you start out with is under 20 k miles tho. its all about using your common sense, and giving yourself an honest assestment of what types of jobs you can handle on your own. if not prepare for a learning experience or more accurately a learning expense.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (intekragsr)

i dont think it was the tensioner. since the head was milled so much, the timing belt turned out to be a little bit to long which caused it to jump.

sorry to hear about all the problems Kyle. let me know if theres anything we can do.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (Downey)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Downey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think it was the tensioner. since the head was milled so much, the timing belt turned out to be a little bit to long which caused it to jump.

sorry to hear about all the problems Kyle. let me know if theres anything we can do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good point! Kyle, sorry to hear about this.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Default Re: just a word of advice................... (Downey)

I don't think you can mill a head enough to make the belt too long. There's quite a bit of adjustment in the tensioner.
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