This just isnt for me.
let me go through a few "strings of bad luck"
****I am in no way hating on any company****
Get the car turboed in may, car runs good for a solid 2 months. On the way home from expo, i encounter:
1. whole in charge pipe
2. busted up turbo
3. fked up slave cylinder
So i go ahead and fixed everything, adding a few more things to make the more reliable.
1 month down time (no biggie its summer, my gf can bring me to work and whatever)
Two days after i get the car back, i blow the motor.
I start buying motor parts.
1. Buy a "standard" deck dart, i recieve a TALL deck dart
2. Buy pistons, the pistons i want are out of stock, so i have to hunt them down
3. Buy rods, they send me b16 rods
4. Decide to send stock motor to benson (sleeves take 1-2 months)
5. Get the block back, go to assemble, the rod clearences are all off
6. buy a tilton bearing kit to fix my slave cylinder problem, everything is on backorder until nov 12th
Ive spent well over 5k in the motor build up, and im stil without a car 3 months later.
I had to drop out this semseter due to not having a car..
Am i just a titty baby or what??!?! WTF is up.....
**selling my car is totally not an option, ill lose way to much money..
****I am in no way hating on any company****
Get the car turboed in may, car runs good for a solid 2 months. On the way home from expo, i encounter:
1. whole in charge pipe
2. busted up turbo
3. fked up slave cylinder
So i go ahead and fixed everything, adding a few more things to make the more reliable.
1 month down time (no biggie its summer, my gf can bring me to work and whatever)
Two days after i get the car back, i blow the motor.
I start buying motor parts.
1. Buy a "standard" deck dart, i recieve a TALL deck dart
2. Buy pistons, the pistons i want are out of stock, so i have to hunt them down
3. Buy rods, they send me b16 rods
4. Decide to send stock motor to benson (sleeves take 1-2 months)
5. Get the block back, go to assemble, the rod clearences are all off
6. buy a tilton bearing kit to fix my slave cylinder problem, everything is on backorder until nov 12th
Ive spent well over 5k in the motor build up, and im stil without a car 3 months later.
I had to drop out this semseter due to not having a car..
Am i just a titty baby or what??!?! WTF is up.....
**selling my car is totally not an option, ill lose way to much money..
I, personally, feel you took the wrong way about building up a fast honda (expensive full-race turbo kit, expensive dart block, then expensive sleeving, expensive tilton clutch, see where I'm going here?) when you're a student on a budget. If you have everything paid for, you might as well get it back on the road for the next semester instead of parting it.
BAd luck after bad luck can only end with good luck. Keep strong, hold it out and when the time comes you will have what you have been wanting if that makes any sense at all.
That's kinda messed up you had to drop out of school this semester. Actually, that's no excuse. You should of took $500 out of that money you spent on bought a beater to at least hold you down in the meantime.
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I had the same problem 2 years ago, but I bought a beater for $290 and it has been a fine daily driver. Isnt the prettiest thing but got me to school and to work. Sometimes you can't have all the bling. After I built my motor and had it tuned right I havent had any issues since, but I still keep a daily driver. Its the FI Game. Gotta pay to play.
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sorry to hear... kinda been like me and my car. since i built the motor it's been on the road maybe 3-4 months out of the last year because of all kinda bs problem. luckily my boss lent me his jeep wrangler to roll around in. but seriously with all the money spent that would not have been a bad option to buy a beater. but either way i feel your pain. i just got done selling most of my stuff.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xPRELUDEx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good things come to those who wait.
Things can only get better from here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not always true... i heard that probably 20 times throughout the last year. one year later... setup still hasn't been made use of.
Things can only get better from here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not always true... i heard that probably 20 times throughout the last year. one year later... setup still hasn't been made use of.
it wasnt directly the problemof not having a car, i had a ride to school, it was just tougher and put more stress on me and everyone else.. had problems getting around.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I, personally, feel you took the wrong way about building up a fast honda (expensive full-race turbo kit, expensive dart block, then expensive sleeving, expensive tilton clutch, see where I'm going here?) when you're a student on a budget. If you have everything paid for, you might as well get it back on the road for the next semester instead of parting it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats the problem with you Honda guys... you nickle and dime everything. I understand that people are on budgets sometimes, but if the kid has a specific idea for his car, why shouldn't he buy the best? There's a reason 90% of Honda/Acura's run like ****... everyone penny pinches and pays for it in the long run
Thats the problem with you Honda guys... you nickle and dime everything. I understand that people are on budgets sometimes, but if the kid has a specific idea for his car, why shouldn't he buy the best? There's a reason 90% of Honda/Acura's run like ****... everyone penny pinches and pays for it in the long run
Just a string of bad luck, you have to almost expect backordered parts a lot of time for many parts.
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Thats the problem with you Honda guys... you nickle and dime everything. I understand that people are on budgets sometimes, but if the kid has a specific idea for his car, why shouldn't he buy the best? There's a reason 90% of Honda/Acura's run like ****... everyone penny pinches and pays for it in the long run </TD></TR></TABLE>
riiiiite. You're telling this to a guy who has a built turbo hatch, and who use to have a TT mustang. I think he knows what he's doing, get off your high horse.
And where the **** is my prize for guessing the top fuel turbo kit
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Thats the problem with you Honda guys... you nickle and dime everything. I understand that people are on budgets sometimes, but if the kid has a specific idea for his car, why shouldn't he buy the best? There's a reason 90% of Honda/Acura's run like ****... everyone penny pinches and pays for it in the long run </TD></TR></TABLE>
riiiiite. You're telling this to a guy who has a built turbo hatch, and who use to have a TT mustang. I think he knows what he's doing, get off your high horse.
And where the **** is my prize for guessing the top fuel turbo kit
Jordo, this is just the way things go with moddfying your car.
I went through the same thing when I rebuilt my motor, my step-bro went through the same thing when he did some serious upgrades.
that is why alot of people have extra cars, or throw a stock b20 in the car until the real motor is done.
you now know what to do better next time.
i can tell you stories that have happended with me, my friend dave, and my friend ryan.
both blew way way more money than you have. ryan got his wheels stolen, tranny, suspension, and waited for his gsr head 4+ months from teh head porter. he got fucked over. but he knows what to do and what not to do when he is now building another car up.
live and learn
I went through the same thing when I rebuilt my motor, my step-bro went through the same thing when he did some serious upgrades.
that is why alot of people have extra cars, or throw a stock b20 in the car until the real motor is done.
you now know what to do better next time.
i can tell you stories that have happended with me, my friend dave, and my friend ryan.
both blew way way more money than you have. ryan got his wheels stolen, tranny, suspension, and waited for his gsr head 4+ months from teh head porter. he got fucked over. but he knows what to do and what not to do when he is now building another car up.
live and learn
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Thats the problem with you Honda guys... you nickle and dime everything. I understand that people are on budgets sometimes, but if the kid has a specific idea for his car, why shouldn't he buy the best? There's a reason 90% of Honda/Acura's run like ****... everyone penny pinches and pays for it in the long run
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There's a difference between doing things with a REASONABLE BUDGET for your income and pinching pennies. You come from the land of overpriced mad JDM recaros, so don't try and tell me **** about nickle and diming a build.
Spending 450 dollars on a cast inline pro manifold vs. 1000+ dollars for a full-race manifold is NOT nickle and diming it. Spending 400 on a good ACT street clutch vs. 1000++ dollars for a tilton once again is NOT nickle and diming it. Nickle and diming it would be if he bought an FMU, ran the missing link, pulled out no timing, stacked 2 headgaskets together, a drag manifold he found in the junkyard, an SSautochrome wastegate and a T3 with blown seals.
My Teg right now is my daily driver. I'm running a used inline pro cast stainless manifold, a T3/TO4E 57 trim, an OBX intercooler, hondata, an act cluch that I bought NIB for cheap, and some wiseco pistons/eagle rods that I got for a great deal. Since I'm not running a brand new 1200 dollar full-race manifold, a 900 dollar custom PWR intercooler, a 2000 dollar autronic box, a 2000 dollar ball bearing ITS turbo, and a dart block, did I nickle and dime it?
Thats the problem with you Honda guys... you nickle and dime everything. I understand that people are on budgets sometimes, but if the kid has a specific idea for his car, why shouldn't he buy the best? There's a reason 90% of Honda/Acura's run like ****... everyone penny pinches and pays for it in the long run
</TD></TR></TABLE>There's a difference between doing things with a REASONABLE BUDGET for your income and pinching pennies. You come from the land of overpriced mad JDM recaros, so don't try and tell me **** about nickle and diming a build.
Spending 450 dollars on a cast inline pro manifold vs. 1000+ dollars for a full-race manifold is NOT nickle and diming it. Spending 400 on a good ACT street clutch vs. 1000++ dollars for a tilton once again is NOT nickle and diming it. Nickle and diming it would be if he bought an FMU, ran the missing link, pulled out no timing, stacked 2 headgaskets together, a drag manifold he found in the junkyard, an SSautochrome wastegate and a T3 with blown seals.
My Teg right now is my daily driver. I'm running a used inline pro cast stainless manifold, a T3/TO4E 57 trim, an OBX intercooler, hondata, an act cluch that I bought NIB for cheap, and some wiseco pistons/eagle rods that I got for a great deal. Since I'm not running a brand new 1200 dollar full-race manifold, a 900 dollar custom PWR intercooler, a 2000 dollar autronic box, a 2000 dollar ball bearing ITS turbo, and a dart block, did I nickle and dime it?
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Am i just a titty baby or what??!?!
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You are just a titty baby!!!!!
Am i just a titty baby or what??!?!
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You are just a titty baby!!!!!
running well takes time..ive been buying/selling parts since last january..ive been thru 3 manifolds, 3 sets of injectors, 2 turbos, 2 intercoolers, and god knows what else...and i still have yet to even START a turbo install..not to mention THREE different cars...it just takes time to get it right...
ya dude not having a ride is no excuse. my buddy found a car for $50 and drove it from MI to here in indiana. its a complete pile of **** but at least it runs. im sorry to hear about that run of bad luck. that really does suck. first day i got my car back from the dyno, the tuner didnt set a rev limiter so it went up to 10k in first gear. ya big mistake. but anyways good luck and get back in school!!
as a wise mike laskey once said. "you gotta pay to play"
it will all work out....sure it really ******* sucks now.....get it done right, get a good tune on her, and she'll be fine. it will be worth it then. you'll see.
it will all work out....sure it really ******* sucks now.....get it done right, get a good tune on her, and she'll be fine. it will be worth it then. you'll see.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tahts the kind of person i am, i want the best of what i can get.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I get stuck in that trap as well. Sometimes you just have to realize that what you think is the best, may not be the best for you.
As other people have mentioned, having a beater is crucial when building up a car. The 1k or so for a beater buys you time and relieves you of the stress of having your car up and running which is priceless. Plus you sell the beater when you don't need it and almost all your costs are recuperated.
I get stuck in that trap as well. Sometimes you just have to realize that what you think is the best, may not be the best for you.
As other people have mentioned, having a beater is crucial when building up a car. The 1k or so for a beater buys you time and relieves you of the stress of having your car up and running which is priceless. Plus you sell the beater when you don't need it and almost all your costs are recuperated.
Jordo, maybe this "hobby" is or isnt for you. Only time will tell. I know what you are going through. With my first project I waited six months for Pauter rods from Motor Matrix Mike. Nothing came. I had him send a check to Geoff at Full Race. It was a starter check that Geoff had never seen so I had to wait another week. I waited two months for my block to get back from resleeving only to find it wasnt o-ringed. Another week and a half wait. There were other problems that kept me down two weeks. Then I had an old surgery bill come up. Insurance paid half the total cost and left me with thirty eight days to pay the rest which was a little over $4,000.00. Sold just about everything I had from that project to pay for it. Now I am onto my second project. I get my first motor, tear it down only to find it's junk. I get a second motor that I was promised was ok (which it was for a normal drop in swap). I take it to the machine shop (forgot to measure the bores) only to find out it had already been rebuilt. Three cylinders were half a thousandth over and one cylinder was an entire thousandth over. My piston to wall clearance is no good. It takes me four days to sell the 81.00mm pistons and another seven days to get my 81.50mm pistons which I am dropping off at the machine shop tomorrow morning. I'm not mad though. I expect these things when building a forced induction Honda 
People like Kwuaymaikrup, Boostfed, BoostedCivicSedan, 99B16Si and qitstrn (sorry Ron dont know your name on here) have been through way more than you and I. Like I said. Only time will tell. Allot of us go over these "speed bumps".

People like Kwuaymaikrup, Boostfed, BoostedCivicSedan, 99B16Si and qitstrn (sorry Ron dont know your name on here) have been through way more than you and I. Like I said. Only time will tell. Allot of us go over these "speed bumps".


