jdm.ej

i just put in my uberdata in. im throwing no cells.
runs fine when you are in the gas but when i let off it drops down real low like its trying to shut off. then once at ilde it fluctates slowly. should i bump up my fuel. im am stumped on this one.

jdm.ej

oh yeah i also just put in new spark plugs.. ngk 3330 and set the gap at 28. my friend has a civic and thats what he's running.

AbitAvenger

post a map, also try uberdata.pgmfi.org

non-VTEC

what injectors you running and did you re-map the fuel map for the proper injector size?

jdm.ej

i had a guy from here send me the programed chip to me. i told him everything i had. im running 550cc. when you give it gas it like its bogging but then its gets and go.

093turbo16

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sounds a little on the rich side. Uberdata has a way of making your idle not so nice. Sometimes it will idle up and down, just a little tuning is need to clean it up, but even then it can still be a pain in the butt.

nonvtecD

Classic uberdata problem. The cold weather is making my idle start to act up again even after being extensively tuned. Get a wideband on it if you want it to run nice.

jdm.ej

im just going to say the hell with it and folk out the money for hondata

093turbo16

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I wouldn't do that just yet. Let it run on your car for a little bit. I also notice that it goes away sometimes.

nonvtecD

if you fork out money for anything it should be a wideband so you can tune your own car...

non-VTEC

having "some guy" burn you a basemap for a tune with larger injectors is not gonna work with uberdata, crome, hondata or anything else for that matter.

you should be tuning it yourself. even if you plug in the proper injector sizes into uberdata it still needs ALOT of tuning to get it just to idle right......

jdm.ej

im going to ride it out for about 2 weeks untile i get the money for hondata. if it dont change or i cant fix im buying a for sure thing. i got way too much money in this car to go cheap with the most important thing in the car. i dunno i hope your right because im a broke mother fu****..

nonvtecD

Find a tuner around you to tune the car for way cheaper than Hondata costs, seriously, if you're strapped for cash this is the obvious choice.

AbitAvenger

just because uberdata is free doesnt mean that its crap...

boosted k20

even if u get hondata u still might have the same problems. hondata is just a basemap, u will need to get it tuned. save ur money and tune the car with uberdata. see if anyone in ur area tunes uberdata! a basemap is only meant for u to get the car up and running and to get the car on the dyno or even street tuned. u should never boost or run the car hard on a basemap or else KABOOOOOOM!

EnzoSpeed

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Arrrg... Hondata will do the exact same thing. If you want to blow some money for Hondata and have the same exact idle, then go for it .

Once you find a tuner, the idle can be fixed in a few minutes. Idle is not something you "excessively tune." With uberdata, it only takes a few minutes to get the idle right.

And if your basemap is right, you can boost as hard as you want to - basemaps are not dangerous, they are meant to run excessively rich with excessive timing pulled. You won't risk engine damage (maybe slight ring wash...), you'll just waste gas and have a lot less power than you should have.

093turbo16

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And if your basemap is right, you can boost as hard as you want to - basemaps are not dangerous, they are meant to run excessively rich with excessive timing pulled. You won't risk engine damage (maybe slight ring wash...), you'll just waste gas and have a lot less power than you should have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, I wouldn't recommend doing that. Ask a few people who have tried doing that and have blown their motors. A properly made basemap gets you to the tuner, nothing more.

boosted k20

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Wow, I wouldn't recommend doing that. Ask a few people who have tried doing that and have blown their motors. A properly made basemap gets you to the tuner, nothing more. </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly. if u boost on a basemap ur just asking for trouble. who knows what fuel pressure the car is running, if timing is set right on the motor, etc? these things will be taken care of when the car gets tuned.

nonvtecD

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And if your basemap is right, you can boost as hard as you want to - basemaps are not dangerous, they are meant to run excessively rich with excessive timing pulled. You won't risk engine damage (maybe slight ring wash...), you'll just waste gas and have a lot less power than you should have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Every basemap I have ever run on is incredibly lean in upper RPM's, even the ones that I added tons of fuel to.

dpetro1

listen to these guys. if you expect to put a basemap in and have everything run perfectly you are sadly mistaken. your problem is probably something that could be quickly fixed with tuning. get that thing to a tuner and im sure it will work out nicely.

pgpunkguy

once you get a wideband and begin tuning yourself, you may want to try crome instead... seems to be a bit more stable than uber...

i'm running uber now, but am gonna switch to crome due to cold-start idling issues... too bad you can't datalog w/o getting crome pro.

kuja

Sorry i was editing my post. That may be why it looked like a debate. What it was going to say -

In my experiences basemap for basemap, i had better luck with crome, my car ran great on it, and if you don't have a wideband and basic tuning knowledge, i would refrain from boosting the car. I'm just saying give it a try, if u have a chip burner, there are other options out there that you may like.


Modified by kuja at 3:47 PM 11/15/2005

093turbo16

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OK I am just going to say this. DO NOT turn this into a crome vs uberdata arguement. There are PLUSES to BOTH sides. Saying one is better than the other is garbage. There are certain aspects of each that are nice to use.

Uber has everything crome does, it is just spread into a couple versions.

Compile them all into the new version and you have a pretty decent new uberdata hopefully coming out, if blake ever decides to work on it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pgpunkguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">once you get a wideband and begin tuning yourself, you may want to try crome instead... seems to be a bit more stable than uber...

i'm running uber now, but am gonna switch to crome due to cold-start idling issues... too bad you can't datalog w/o getting crome pro. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You may want to look into the new fuel modifiers.

LST2

I find with larger injectors you need to bump up the idle a little bit and advance the timing. I am running 750cc and I have to idle at 1K RPM or it will die. I also have my timming at idle advanced to 22* on a 9:1CR 85MM engine. You can also bump up the moving idle (I have mine at 1,400 RPM).

nfn15037

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And if your basemap is right, you can boost as hard as you want to - basemaps are not dangerous, they are meant to run excessively rich with excessive timing pulled. You won't risk engine damage (maybe slight ring wash...), you'll just waste gas and have a lot less power than you should have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NO NO NO!! This is the worst piece of advice I think I have ever read on Honda-Tech. DO NOT DO THIS! Base maps are made for an individual to drive to a tuner and nothing more. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200, go directly to a tuner and don't boost along the way. A base map is a startup, idle, and drive gently to a tuner map, NOT a beat the living **** out of your car, its just a little rich map.