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Old May 9, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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I'm thinking of buying a Jackson Racing supercharger for my civic with a GSR swap. I found a used one for $1200 and it only has 6000 miles. I was going to try and save up for a turbo kit but since I don't really want to get too crazy with my car and I want it to still be very reliable, I'm leaning toward the JRSC. What would you do?? Still save and try to get a turbo, or get the Jackson Racing Super Charger?

Now, say I do go with the JRSC.. Do I need to get injectors and some sort of ems? Or can I just run what I have? Ya I know I could search but I don't have alot of time to spend on the introweb :p

Last question, what kind of hp numbers can I expect with a stock gsr motor, JRSC, aem cold air intake and a good header?
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Old May 9, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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You are asking a lot of questions that have been answered many many times. There is a thread that is dedicated to superchargers (mostly JRSC) on Honda/Acura. The thread is quite long, but you now have the ability to search individual threads directly:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/%2A%2A%2A-official-jrsc-thread%2A%2A%2A-1214810/

I don't think anyone will spoon feed you the information you ask. Better you find out for yourself. We also don't have unlimited time to spend on the introweb!
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Old May 9, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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My friend with a b16 del sol went through the same thing. i suggested the JRSC and hes never regretted it since. the powerband is good for the street, his car was alot faster, and its been virtually maintenance free. a simple low boost gsr jrsc with boltons should expect around 220+ to the wheels. my friend made 200whp with his b16. He runs the map controller and JRSC FMU. u can always upgrade if you like but for a low boost setup, it workls fine. Hope u go the blower route, turbos are for Mack trucks!
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Old May 9, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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thanks for both replies. I think I'm going to do it. And ya, if I want I will upgrade later.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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You are asking a lot of questions that have been answered many many times.
Literally many many times!

To the OP, the link Jaker gave you is awesome, you'll learn alot.
I had the JRSC and I loved it!!! Thing was fun as hell! But... now I'm turbo...

You could always get the JRSC and when you feel you need more power, save the money your missing, sell the blower and voila! While you're saving the money for turbo kit, you'll still have fun while boosting.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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i had a b20z with b16 head,
itr intake cam
gsr exhaust cam
crv crank pulley=13psi
249 whp @9150 rpm
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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by R.A.T.
Literally many many times!

To the OP, the link Jaker gave you is awesome, you'll learn alot.
I had the JRSC and I loved it!!! Thing was fun as hell! But... now I'm turbo...

You could always get the JRSC and when you feel you need more power, save the money your missing, sell the blower and voila! While you're saving the money for turbo kit, you'll still have fun while boosting.
Wow, that thread is crazy long. Thanks for the help!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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I was always a N.A guy for the longest time untill i got my jrsc for about the same as what yours is going for. I considered a turbo kit for my 98'' gsr for about a bit more $/power but im in C.A where if theres no carb # you got a reff ticket! so i threw the jrsc on top of my all motor setup, and i thought i had a strong n.a motor that was 204hp but with the jrsc and 5psi boost i made 230hp and it feels awsome and so much more stronger, so much wheal spin! and my torque band is so linier theres no lag in the power band. im verry impressed with it at only 5psi! now i did use rc 440 injectors and a walbro 255 fuel pump along with my s100 but my sk2 pro 1 cams are to big so my tuner sugested itr intake cams and gsr ex and 9psi boost i should be at 260hp! so i'll see in a few weaks it should be a beast! i have no regrets with the jrsc. check my thread on my jrsc build and please leave your comments!
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Old May 10, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
my tuner sugested itr intake cams and gsr ex and 9psi boost i should be at 260hp!

I hope you meant GSR intake and ITR exhaust cams. That's the hot setup for decent JRSC setups.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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I hope you meant GSR intake and ITR exhaust cams. That's the hot setup for decent JRSC setups.
That's good to know. Any other tricks to get the JRSC to its fullest potential? And, is there any air intakes that work better than others with the supercharger? Keep in mind that it is a GSR motor in an EK civic.
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Originally Posted by Jaker
I hope you meant GSR intake and ITR exhaust cams. That's the hot setup for decent JRSC setups.
hmm i thaught it was the oposite cause the gsr cams hold the valves open longer could be wrong.
i swaped my itr 3'' cai for a comptech ice box intake! its much comon with jrsc setups.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Get a turbo
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Old May 11, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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Get a turbo
That is something that a guy with 40 posts would say. haha. jk I do want to get one but can't afford it right now and I can pick up a slightly used JRSC for $1,000 so that's why I'm wanting to do it.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:22 AM
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Okay, I got it last night. Still need to get it put on though. It's running an 8psi pulley. What would your suggestions be on running it with a stock computer? Can I get away with it? And, I have some stock IS300 injectors. I'm pretty sure they're DSM's so they should work. They're like 270's or 290's so I think that will help with the fuel problem a little bit. Obviously not going to compensate for getting hondata and having it tuned. What do you think?

Again, any other tips or suggestions when installing this thing? And what other tricks to help get the most potential from it?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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any help is appreciated. I've been reading as much as possible but still have some questions..
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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If Jackson Racing sold their superchargers as "kits", which used 'something' to take care of fueling and timing issues, then I'd suggest re-creating the "kit" since it used the stock ECU. Can you get away with the stock ECU? Yes, if you're running the items that the "kit" came with. To get more potential from it though, you need to spend money on a Hondata with a set of higher-flowing injectors (like 440cc), which it doesn't seem like you can do. Simply installing a set of IS300 injectors is not going to take care of things and could potentially make things worse (if they were peak-hold and you didn't use a resistor box).
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Originally Posted by import-tooner
Okay, I got it last night. Still need to get it put on though. It's running an 8psi pulley. What would your suggestions be on running it with a stock computer? Can I get away with it? And, I have some stock IS300 injectors. I'm pretty sure they're DSM's so they should work. They're like 270's or 290's so I think that will help with the fuel problem a little bit. Obviously not going to compensate for getting hondata and having it tuned. What do you think?

Again, any other tips or suggestions when installing this thing? And what other tricks to help get the most potential from it?

"you have stock is300 injectors, but you're sure they're DSMs.. " - that doesn't quite make sense. DSM injectors require a resistor box to run in your civic. But you'll want a fuel pump to go with your bigger injectors, at the least. You could use JR's FMU, but save time and money, just get the S300 for management, you won't regret it.

You should re-read that thread that was provided.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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"you have stock is300 injectors, but you're sure they're DSMs.. " - that doesn't quite make sense. DSM injectors require a resistor box to run in your civic. But you'll want a fuel pump to go with your bigger injectors, at the least. You could use JR's FMU, but save time and money, just get the S300 for management, you won't regret it.

You should re-read that thread that was provided.
ya, I've been reading it as much as possible. Just don't have alot of time. And, its like 500 pages long! haha. Anyway, I don't claim to know as much as everyone else on here so I guess I thought I knew what dsm injectors were but now I realize I was wrong. I'm just going to do it the right way. I'm trying to come up with the funds to get a used AEM EMS. I had really good luck with AEM on my last turbo'd integra.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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The only way to go is with hondata (s100 works fine and its cheaper than the s300 if funds are an issue) ,walbro 255 lphhp fuel pump, bigger injectors and dyno tuning .That will put a smile on ya face its gonna cost ya about another thousand dollars but will be money well spent imo !
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get hondata, some 4xx injectors and a walbro and call it a day, theres nothing wrong with the JRSC, i had a lot of fun with mine a while back, thinking of putting one on my R.

That jackson racing thread is way to damn big to get any info out of without being socially disfunctional for a week to read it.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Seriously, I read for like an hour and got 12 pages into it. I guess there is only like 480 more to go..
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Seriously, I read for like an hour and got 12 pages into it. I guess there is only like 480 more to go..
I've read over some of my old posts on that thread recently. Brought back alot of memories when my ITR was SC'd. You can learned a ton stuff on that thread. Keep reading and keep us posted of your progress.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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what ever you do, don't try to print it... I did that when the thread was only 180 pages (equivalent to over 500 pages 8.5 x 11)
I was reading with my highlighter while having my breakfast in the mornings
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
get hondata, some 4xx injectors and a walbro and call it a day, theres nothing wrong with the JRSC, i had a lot of fun with mine a while back, thinking of putting one on my R.
^^Great advice. However, I would suggest like 550ccs for 8lbs. You could always get even bigger injectors, and simply tune them down.

But like spoolin said, Hondata, injectors, walbro, and you're set. And maybe a tune if you are not able to do it yourself.
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[quote=cvcrcr99;38592291]^^Great advice. However, I would suggest like 550ccs for 8lbs. You could always get even bigger injectors, and simply tune them down.[quote]

I'm glad you brought this up. If I had it to do over again I'd get at least 550's. On 9-10 PSI @ 8500 RPM's my injectors wre at 86%. Thats right on the ragged edge IMO. Remember injectors are rated @ 85% duty cycle. Anything past that and I'm a bit nervous, so just get some 750's and turn them way down.
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