Notices

Impressive B series dyno tune

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-10-2008, 08:04 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
alpha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Impressive B series dyno tune

I never really post dyno sheets here unless it's something different. Recently tuned another shop's customer's Integra that they've been working on for some time. I was very impressed to say the least

Car: Integra

Engine: DART B20 block, DART head, unknown valve train, Crane cams, 3mm (?) head gasket, 95mm Scat crank, Eagle rods, JE 12:1 pistons (?), ARP head studs

Mods: Driven Concepts top mount exhaust manifold, Driven Concepts 4" e-cutout downpipe, Driven Concepts intercooler piping, Turbo Smart 44mm wastegate, Driven Concepts intake, Driven Concepts dump tube out front bumper, T4 TO4Z (T4/T67) ball bearing turbocharger, Edelbrock intake manifold, Precision 1000cc injectors, Bosch 044 (2) fuel pumps, NGK 4554 spark plugs, AEM boost control solenoid, 30-1040 AEM EMS tuned by Alpha at Brotherz Racing

Tuning at 11.8lbs creeping roughly to 12.2lbs on 93 octane:

483.62whp 378.38ft-lbs Uncorrected

Tuning at 17.8lbs creeping roughly to 18.4lbs on C16

629.00whp Uncorrected

We had some ignition issues, dyno issues (stack fan went out), severe traction issues and radiator cap issues. In all. We had to stop due to traction issues The car did great. The crew at Driven Concepts did a great job on the car! Internal logs showed 91% duty cycle but was not leaning out, yet. Dyno sheets are below. Once I figure out my web host's issues I will be able to direct link them

http://www.tamparacing.com/for...s.jpg

http://www.tamparacing.com/for...s.jpg

http://www.tamparacing.com/for....html


Modified by alpha at 10:24 AM 1/11/2008
Old 01-10-2008, 08:11 PM
  #2  
i ♥ snails
 
quicksilver1689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: hmt noggs
Posts: 2,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

awesome torque and powerband always liked those dart block turbo builds
Old 01-10-2008, 08:38 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
T4eg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: VA
Posts: 2,784
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (quicksilver1689)

race gas


pump gas
Old 01-10-2008, 09:07 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
xsi-t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tampa, FL, usa
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

post it up fellas
Old 01-10-2008, 10:38 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
spectacle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,251
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (alpha)

Old 01-11-2008, 05:54 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
mrbsponge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TDCperformance.net
Posts: 4,103
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

pretty badass john.

95mm crank! "thats a big bitch" (duece bigalo male jigallo)


Modified by mrbsponge at 9:21 PM 1/11/2008
Old 01-11-2008, 05:54 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
tony1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Dallas, TX, USA
Posts: 15,814
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Re: (T4eg)

Seems real lazy for such a big motor, what gear were you dynoing in? 12:1 was before the 3mm headgasket, right?
Old 01-11-2008, 06:24 AM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
alpha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (tony1)

Tony. You're right. It is a little lazy for a 2.1 liter. Yes. It was late. 12:1 was before the 3mm head gasket
Old 01-11-2008, 10:31 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joseph Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: ashEVILle, NC, USSR
Posts: 4,417
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (alpha)

DART head? I had no idea such a beast existed. Veeeeery interesting.
Old 01-11-2008, 10:39 AM
  #10  
i ♥ snails
 
quicksilver1689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: hmt noggs
Posts: 2,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

# DART’s CNC Ported Honda GSX Heads are based on factory new GS-R VTEC castings, and are given a full digital CNC porting and combustion chamber reshaping.
# Dart’s GSR CNC Heads provide serious street or racing performance with optimized air flow, fuel atomization and combustion characteristics.
# Our extensive racing experience has been applied to produce a Honda head which increases power and performance dramatically.
# Ideal for turobcharged or nitrous oxide injected engines using Dart’s B-18 , B-20+ or stock Honda blocks.
# Digital CNC porting and combustion chamber machining provides dimentionally accurate and consistent contours which translate into reliable power output.
# 135cc Intake Port Volume (125cc Stock)
# 90cc Exhaust Port Volume
# 45cc Combustion Chamber Volume
# 34mm Intake Valve Diameter
# 28mm Exhaust Valve Diameter
# Fits all B-Series Blocks
Old 01-11-2008, 11:21 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Turbocivic94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: CT, USA
Posts: 5,002
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (quicksilver1689)

what do u think the compression is now?
Old 01-11-2008, 02:42 PM
  #12  
 
xenocron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Hillburn, NY, USA
Posts: 5,724
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (Turbocivic94)

Probably closer to 10:1 with a 3mm Headgasket I would imagine...

There is a LOT of money in that car...whats its final purpose? Dyno Queen Shop car or weekend money maker?
Old 01-11-2008, 02:48 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
b18b1turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 471
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

nice number!
Old 01-11-2008, 04:03 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Mikey3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Lorton, VA
Posts: 2,975
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (b18b1turbo)

damn i've never seen that much power from only ~18 psi. what do you attribute that amount of power to? the turbo, the headwork, the nitromethane?
Old 01-11-2008, 04:39 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
xsi-t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tampa, FL, usa
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (xenocron)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Probably closer to 10:1 with a 3mm Headgasket I would imagine...

There is a LOT of money in that car...whats its final purpose? Dyno Queen Shop car or weekend money maker?</TD></TR></TABLE> hahaha all the above
Old 01-11-2008, 04:54 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
alpha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (xenocron)

He just wanted a fast, reliable, running car. He got it. He ordered a set of bias plies. We're going to the track as soon as we dyno again

Old 01-11-2008, 05:36 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
manifoldmiketyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (alpha)

hey,

shop i work at did all the work. i was the primary builder. turbo is a journal t4/t67 .96 a/r with p trim, water cooled.

compression is somewhere high 9's to low 10's.

i was expecting that kind of power or torque at all. definatly a nice suprise. here are a couple pics of the setup.

thanks again to alpha and brotherz racing for doing such a bang up job on the dyno

below is a link on my shop forum of the build on tamparacing.com

http://www.tamparacing.com/for....html







Old 01-12-2008, 06:07 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
ekhonda87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN, U.S.
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (manifoldmiketyson)

very impressive #'s!
Old 01-12-2008, 06:32 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
96 GSR-T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 6,381
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (ekhonda87)

nice power w/ 18psi
Old 01-12-2008, 06:35 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
slooogsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: A dystopian world
Posts: 3,630
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

that is one burly downpipe....
Old 01-12-2008, 07:20 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jared's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Tallahassee, FL, US
Posts: 7,190
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i started to build a 95mm stroke turbo motor but shied away because i was afraid a turbo motor would beat up the bearings too bad with the big stroke.
Old 01-12-2008, 08:03 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
manifoldmiketyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Jared)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i started to build a 95mm stroke turbo motor but shied away because i was afraid a turbo motor would beat up the bearings too bad with the big stroke.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not totally unjust. we didn't build the engine. that particular engine was built for a sema car in 2006 in think. i can get more info on it, but it was a magazine installment build. it was originally built for nitrous, but the owner decided to go turbo.

i'll find the article and post it up. it was a pretty meticulous build.

only thing that has been changed to the engine since the build is a 3mm headgasket and vibrant tensioner. besides that, the engine was left how it was.

we arn't reving it that high (8k), so i'm hoping it should stay together for some time.

its looking like we'll be back on the dyno this next week. more at brotherz and then we'll do some back up pulls on another dyno just to make sure.

this set up is probably going to go in for some overhall in the next year. probably looking at a 42r or a s372, twin disk, bigger injectors and some better axles.
Old 01-12-2008, 08:09 PM
  #23  
Junior Member
 
poop II's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: djibouti
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (manifoldmiketyson)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manifoldmiketyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.96 a/r with p trim
</TD></TR></TABLE>
93
Now THATS a big bitch!
93 93/93
Old 01-12-2008, 08:17 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
manifoldmiketyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (poop II)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poop II &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
93
Now THATS a big bitch!
93 93/93</TD></TR></TABLE>

Old 01-14-2008, 03:55 PM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
manifoldmiketyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Impressive B series dyno tune (manifoldmiketyson)

just to clear some things up. compression without the headgasket was 11.5:1.


Quick Reply: Impressive B series dyno tune



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:15 AM.