Ok, It's time for me to get schooled.......
I have a 2000 EJ8 with a JDM B18C Type-R swap. It is completely stock and unmolested. The stock D was boosted on 14lbs until it went pop (lasted 2 years on a bone stock block and head). I paid for the turbo kit to be installed and tuned by HP Performance in Roswell, New. Mexico. I have became a lot more capable of doing everything myself (except tuning it). I'm looking for a turbo kit that is going to give me 300-350 hp. I'm stupid and sold everything that was on my D to get this Type-R. I'm planning on spending about $3,500.00 on it. I'm not including Sleeves, Pistons, Valvetrain, Clutch, Flywheel, and Axles. Thanks in advance and all of your advice is appreciated..

 

You were smart to get rid of all of the D-series equipment. It wouldn't have fit on there anyway to any real degree.

Please state purpose of the car (I know you said 350whp) but also, what you really plan to do with it, if you're keeping A/C and Power steering budget for the car, etc.

 

Well the D stuff I was talking about was like waste gate BOV Intercooler stuff like that. I have PS on it now and am Kinda wanting to put the a/c back in. I drive the car 30+ miles a day to work and back so,,,, It going to be a DD and a weekend warrior..

 

For the driving you plan to do, I would suggest the setup I used to run on my stock GSR. It was a simple, yet effective setup for the street.

-Spoolin Performance Miniram (quick spool but has a true collector for good overall flow)
-3" dp and exhaust
-550cc injectors
-Walbro 255lph
-GT3255e turbo from TheShodan
-The rest of the setup is irrelevant

Anyway, on my bone stock GSR with 91 octane, it made 315whp/216wtq at 10.5psi (limited by the stock map sensor). It would start boosting around 2800rpm and I had full boost by 3500ish. It was a perfect street setup.

 

Cool. That sounds like I would have some wiggle room with that set up. I plan on building the block and head a little later down the road to really make some power but thats like 8-12 months. Then I will be going for the 600+whp for the street. Thats my final goal, but for now I just want a 300-350whp with my stock block.

 

Anybody else have any ideas for me? I like to have some options. I don't want to just stick with the first setup idea thrown to me.

 

Understood. but you're getting advice from some of the best experienced people with the simple setup that you're looking for on this forum.. you'll just get the same resultant opinions. Schister66 knows his **** on here. I know you are relatively new to this forum, but its not as consensus-based as others that you're used to...So you were lucky to get the best informed and knowledgeable opinion first, honestly.

 

Ok. Well what brand intercooler do you suggest I use? And why a ram horn and not a manifold?

 

Do a search for the SP Mini Ram and you will see why Schister66 is saying to use it. It is a great mani that makes good power and will last forever. If you want to save a few bucks the Egay intercooler kits work just fine and run about $200, but may need some slight modification and are bar and plate not extruded. Garret, Spearco, Turbonetics, Greddy, Precision all make very good intercoolers.

 

I recommend using a Garrett core, even over the mishimoto, but there is an entire kit that works with all you need, including all the lines, fittings, clamps,etc

 

But? What the brand of the kit?

 

The mini ram will spool faster and make nearly as much power in the top end. On the other hand, a ramhorn manifold will have relatively slower spool but since you're not pushing this setup to the limit, you will never see the gains provided by the manifold design.

Search my name, Spoolin miniram and GT3251b. A few years back while running a turbo from TheShodan, i decided to change manifolds based on his advice and I put together a fair comparison of the two manifolds. I had been running a topmount and switched to a miniram. Needless to say, i gained power all over the place....in the midrange it as something like 50+whp/50+wtq gained by switchin the manifold. The difference between a ramhorn and miniram is less pronounced, but the same effect applies.

 

See the referencing in the middle of the page of this link..
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/turbo-selection-3003712/

 

you mean here?
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/why-top-mount-2152865/

Tony the Tiger (an awesome turbo guru) summed it up here:

A log manifold is simply, a log.. Picture a log with 4 tubes mashed together. Runners 1-2 and 3-4 are firing against eash other. These are the ones you commonly see that are fabricated with pipe "tees". They are downright the **** of all *****.

Inline Pro, HKS/GReddy, and quite a few others are not log or tubular manifolds. If you are clueless on general designs of manifolds, your best bet is to do more research on popular setups similar to your goals. Anyone with good basic knowledge on manifolds will know how to define what is a good or bad manifold despite the common "categorization".

A ramhorn tubular manifold that uses a stamped box collector is going to be less efficient versus a mini-ram with a full length merge collector. Same deal with a ramhorn style manifold with full merge collector vs a top-mount long length manifold with a shitty box collector. Either type of manifold can outperform each other, which kind of makes this entire discussion pointless from the start.

How do we figure out which type of 'header' works better, imagine if we were shopping for headers for an all motor setup? Don't all the NA headers have long length runners, proper cylinder pairing or whatnot? The power gains come from quality collectors, R&D on runner lengths, and all of this design is based on the power level, compression, cams, displacement, etc...

Turbo manifolds are no different... When we decide on manifolds, we can't look at the manifold itself. You have to choose it by the turbo you are running, the cams you choose, and the type of performance you are expecting to get out of it. You don't choose a top-mount that has long length runners on a motor with B16A cams, and running a GT28RS. You don't choose a "log" manifold for a GT42R and running huge cams on there. You don't try to make 450WHP on pump gas on a box collector.

Just like for the all motor guys, we don't put big tube all motor drag headers on a stock B16A hoping for more midrange torque. Same deal with turbo, we don't put long length top-mount turbo manifolds onto 300 WHP setups hoping for more midrange on GT42R.

I know folks always used to say "build a manifold that has the straightest path, best wastegate placement, etc etc... We are way beyond that these days, because our engines are efficient, turbos are efficient, etc.. We can have turbo motors that run at high power levels with minimal back pressures and exhaust reversion. When there is minimal back pressures, the engine now behaves similar to an NA motor. It needs better breathing cams and heads, it wants longer runners, it wants a manifold that can scavenge. You see the pattern here now, and turbo manifolds isn't a one size fits all thing anymore. No single "classification" of manifolds are better than another, just rather different designs for different purposes.

 

Ok, I can't find sh*t on the sp mini ram. This is as close as I've gotten

http://www.spoolinperformance.com/-c-21.html

I keep getting pushed in the ram horn direction. If you goolge Sp mini ram you get a whole mess load of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with what your looking for.

These below are so far the only two that I have been interested in--

http://www.bloxracing.com/bloxshop/i...product_id=220

http://www.spoolinperformance.com/tu...ld-p-1074.html

I don't want a top mount or any of that "bling factor" stuff. I don't pop my hood in this stupid city because once people know what you have they will steal your sh*t and they come prepared. I had a buddy that used to take his ecu in every night to ensure he car would be there in the morning and what do you know his sh*t got jacked. So, no "bling" I don't want people knowing what I got. When I get the intercooler put in its getting painted black so its harder to spot going down the highway, LOL. Let me know how to find the sp mini spool so I can check it out, and is it a/c & p/s friendly??

 

There's nothing to talk about other than if you look at that FAQ link that I provided. There's plenty on mini-ram. SLS (straight line specialties), Go-Autowerks, and Spoolin' all have one.

What are you trying to find out? HP limitations? there really aren't any. CHECK THAT LINK I GAVE YOU FIRST just above the Quote in my last post. read carefully. There's not much to "know".

 

I'm trying to find where to buy one and see if they are a/c and p/s friendly.

 

All you had to do was ask that question.

Let's try this again..

Spoolin' Performance has a Quick4AC that does this

Straight Line Specialties also has one but is not A/C compatible

Go-Autowerks has one as well, though I believe it is not A/C compatible.

Please go to their respective sites (that you already found) to order them.. not that hard to do in this overwhelming age of Interweb transactions.

 

Nothing to bump.. search those links, buy the products and have a great time.

 

LOL.. where did you get that bump from??

 

It was from a person that had his bump removed. TinterJeff is now removed.

 

LOL ok.

 

good info this is going to my favorites =p