I need some assurence from someone with experience in boost!!!!
I am just about to put my turbo in and I am sooooooooooooooo afraid that I am going to blow up my car and I can't afford that. Can someone reassure me that that is probably not going to happen. I am just going to run the 9psi wastegate with no boost controller so I can't mess with the boost so I don't turn it up to high. I got the headgasket to lower the compression so I really don't have to worry about that. I am just so worried that something is going to go wrong and I just need someone to tell me that it isn't. But I want the truth. (And no smartass's say I can't handle the truth, that isn't funny, I am really worried.)
All that sounds funny with that small philosophy under your post " BOOST IT TILL IT BLOWS!!
THERE IS ALWAYS A FASTER CAR"
Post your setup, that'll help determine the basis of how reliable your car is.
THERE IS ALWAYS A FASTER CAR"
Post your setup, that'll help determine the basis of how reliable your car is.
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if u cant afford to blow it yet, why dont u wait till u can to put the kit on... as long as its tuned right it shouldnt blow.
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You're clearly pretty worried about this. Just spend the money to get a J&S Safeguard. You'll sleep better at night. Plus, of course, it takes care of boost timing retard and it limits the MAP sensor signal so that's two other components you don't need to buy. (or hassle with check valves etc).
If you have just enough money to cover the turbo, then wait and save up more. I have some cash on the side that I call my insurance money in case something happens. There is no rush just wait.
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00 turbosi, if it said it yes I'd think you were an american muscle guy like cobrasvtracer.
like I asked earlier whats your setup?
like I asked earlier whats your setup?
Ok these are the things that I have waiting to go in the car. The reason that I put this post on here is because I used to have an Eclipse GS-T. It was a mid 12 sec car. I blew the tranny two times in the two years that I had it but everyone knows that the Eclipse tranny's suck. I heard that the Honda tranny is great and will last. But that car came with a turbo, I didn't worry much. This car is NA and that is why I am worried. It is not that I drive the car hard or anything, but I have heard some horror stories on here and they freak me out. Ok, my set up (going in sometime in the next few weeks)..... F-Max turbo kit with thicker headgasket to lower the compression (So no BTM), intank fuel pump, STR fuel rail, ACT extreme clutch with street disc, V-AFC, and the obvious guages, boost and A/F. The wastegate for the kit is a 9psi spring. I don't plan on running anymore boost than that so I am not going to get a boost controller. That is my set up. Do ya think I will have any problem?
[Modified by 00 turbosi, 10:24 AM 6/19/2001]
[Modified by 00 turbosi, 10:24 AM 6/19/2001]
Like everyone said, take your time.. wait a little longer and have some extra cash available and make sure you have another form of transportation. Some of us have had problems and hurt a motor to the point of being expensive, but if you listen to these guys, and get it tuned after the install.. don't crank up the boost and use that "FEAR" and use common sense... you should be ok...
I have another car, that is not a problem. How much do you think I need on the side before I put the turbo in? What problems did you all have and how much did it cost. Also, how long where ya without your car.
just run 5 or 6 psi...till you get the feeling for it...gradually tune..and and up the boost...I wouldn't suggest running 9psi right off the bat for a newbie.
I used to run 18psi in my Eclipse so newbie really doesn't come to mind, plus the wastegate has a 9psi spring, I don't have a choice in the matter about running lower boost.
ahh...gotcha.....but factory, non factory turbo require some different handling....
loosen the adjustment screw on the wastegate....should be able to run 6 or 7 especially after the pressure drop from the IC
loosen the adjustment screw on the wastegate....should be able to run 6 or 7 especially after the pressure drop from the IC
I am having a shop put the kit in so I will let time know, lower boost would make me feel a lot better. Am I going to have to worry about boost spike at all? Just wondering.
like someone state already you should get an j&s safe guard to help with boos timing retard, also larger injectors will help you run safer at 9lbs boost, along with an fuel management system.
also a boost controller will help prevent boost spikes
[Modified by 2kgs-R, 8:37 AM 6/19/2001]
also a boost controller will help prevent boost spikes
[Modified by 2kgs-R, 8:37 AM 6/19/2001]
But by me getting that thicker head gasket to lower the compression, F-Max tested it and you can run full timing at 13psi. That is what their web page says anyway.
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u should be fine with the fmax kit, just lower the boost down to 6-7 psi, it will still be fast.. having a turbo on the Si is totally different then the factory GST setup..
But by me getting that thicker head gasket to lower the compression, F-Max tested it and you can run full timing at 13psi. That is what their web page says anyway.
also everyone here is sorta avoiding the "it will blow you motor" feature that the turbo kits many times come with... ill be honest with ya... if u blew 2 trannies already... id say just be ready with money for when the engine goes... anyone who is really into their motor... well... sorry to say this... but i guess most people's motors blow up anyway... in some shape, way or form...
im not trying to scare you but i think this is what u want to hear... my motor blew up in april... its getting rebuilt now... just to get the motor rebuilt it is costing me over $3000... this includes a new sleeved block/new pistons/machining/balancing/and assembly... to add to this... im also replacing my whole turbo setup... cuz that kinda went... and i wasnt expecting to spend all this money... this just goes to show it can happen without u expecting it and without knowing how much money u are going to spend... granted you might not want to go my route... but im getting only the best for my motor... i look at it as in the end im gonna change it anway... so why not do it right the first time?
run a low boost level and youll be ok. running 9 is too much if youre worried about blowing your motor. im fine at 7lbs. i, too, cant afford to blow my motor
Most turbo kits, i.e. FMAX and DRAG come with turbonetic deltagates, and you can order the 7 PSI spring directly from Performance Technique, http://64.225.76.178/main.htm for like 10 bucks or something. You can then replace that spring in place of that 9 PSI spring. I think you should start out with 7 PSI of boost then maybe gradually increase it to whatever you desire later. You should however consider building up the bottom end in the near future. Get new rods, pistons, and re-sleeve it. Then you'll be fine. 9 PSI right now would be a little too much and I wouldn't recommend it until you have the tuning down and know how the car feels.
I too was kinda worried when I put my turbo kit on, I had a lot of problems when installing the kit by myself, since the kit came off a 4th gen lude and my car is a 5th gen. And the worst thing I did was, I hooked up the FMU in backwards!!! and that night when I test drove it, I ******* boosted it all the way to redline under full boost, i felt something wrong because the car was not making any power under boost, so I found out the FMU problem....
luckily my motor is not blown yet, I compression test my motor like once a month...
luckily my motor is not blown yet, I compression test my motor like once a month...




