rMak

i seem to be pondering a walk into the dark side with a turbo to my d16y8. although toying with the idea, my brother brings up the fact that there is much tuning and retuning. does this hold true? inputs guys

kcjohnnyboy

bump...

i would like to know too...

JDM_EH2

bump agan...i also want to know what im up against when i join the darkside

Atheist

A company called payn technologies (they advertise here now) said that it'd take baout 1.5 - 2hrs on a dyno, and then so long as you dont change your setup, you are golden

Adriano

I spent about 3 hours on the dyno (setting up the car, hooking up all the sensors...) Good thing it was a flat rate

tslag

Payn did my tunning. 99 civic si b16, drag kit, built with stock sleeves, and hondata. They billed me for 2 hours and I gained 40 whp. The best $320.00 I ever spent.

b16ahybrid

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once you tune it you won't need to re-tune it unless you make changes (more boost, etc)...
if you go with a kit that comes with a fmu or blue box..there is no tuning required ( because you cant)

rMak

will gas affect the a/f much? like when they put the additives in for the winter so itll run cleaner... does that do anything?

MiraiZ

five days to do the whole map...I'm in love with my tuner (LOL)

b16ahybrid

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I would be too if I was able to run what your runing (power wise)

rMak

so basically its like roncos cook thing? "set it and forget it?"

b16ahybrid

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Yeah as long as you don't stir the pot....You'll alway have to monitor it (I.E afr, egt,fuel/oil pressures etc)

TurboSedan

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Wow, that is all they charged you? I am going there very soon to get my Hondata tuned. I hope my bill is similar to what yours was! I was expecting it to be closer to $500.

spoolinlude

Uhh like a year playing with situations on the computer, and a few weeks worth of dyno time...... just cuz i experiement, but anytime you change something, you'll have to retune to adapt

rMak

but changing gas wont adversly affect it enough right?

EG(6)SR

no tuning whatsoever

Turbo GSR in 92 hatchback With thicker headgasket to lower cr to 9:1

13.5@107 on street tires @ 7 psi

Saving up for hondata over the summer with some nice fuel nuggets and ofcourse some time behind the dyno, broke as hell right now with school. Barely got gas moneyfor the beater let alone textbooks.

If your not boosting too hard, its quite safe, and some people have really pushed the limits of the stock ecu and fmu setup. Can't wait for hondata and 12 psi.....(goal is for 11's on stock longblock)

rMak

bump. nice info guys.

hybrid901

3 hours the first time and I have been playing with the hondata at the track from then on out.

Mase

blah blah blah

tslag

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Why?

GDM Z28

i had my car tuned on the street with a wideband. my a/f is around mid 11's all the way across the board. it looks like a straigt line. BTW it took us probally about 2-3 hours to tune. my car goes on the dyno just to see what im putting down on feb 21st. so ill let you guys how it went.

Tuned by VTC_Civic and im loving it!

Mase

you people are forgetting some really important things here.


I hear, " took me 2 hours" "didnt take me any hours to tune"

First of all, there are different definitions for "fully tuned" Most people dont realize, its very simple to tune WOT. thats 1/3 of the battle right there. what about the other 2/3's of the fuel map that you cant reach on a dynojet.

I recently got to use a Dyno Dynamics Dyno. it was pretty sick, you could actually sit there and tune at different loads/speed, etc. Dynojets you cant.


You also have to take into consideration the system you are using. Hell it takes me probably half the time to tune a hondata, then it does an AEM EMS (although I like the ems better). It takes a while to setup a perfect accel pump (tip in throttle) as well as idle and other ****. with hondata its more simple, but you dont have the features.

thats why you guys shouldnt compare it in "hours".

it also depends on the tuner, the supplied basemap, and the equipment you are using.

rMak

good contradiction, i was kind of amazed at the small amount of time everyone said

Mase

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yep, sadly, this is a prime example of skewed info here on honda-tech

jaydmcrx

payn is where im getting my car tune at live only two hours away