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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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I have a turbonetics t3/t04E that was used for roughly 4000 miles. The shaft goes up about 1/2mm and down about 1/2mm, so all together about 1mm of shaft play. is this normal for a non ball bearing turbo?


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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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me too......bump
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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any help would be very appreciated
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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I like a lot of shaft play.. 7 days a week is pretty normal for me..
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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from what i was told, a little up and down shaft play is ok. Now if you try to push it forwad and back or fore and aft, then you're in need of a rebuild. don't quote me on this but that's what i was told.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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1/2 a mm..yuo cna measure that?
lol. that seems ok..but i could be wrong
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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You really shouldn't have any shaft play.My old t3 that i ran for about 2 1/2 years had no play at all (very little so minimal not even measurable). If your getting some play it's probably going to need to be rebuilt soon...just remember when that turbo is spooled (spinning really fast) if it's got any play it's going to throw the balance off and cause excessive wear on the bearings.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Shaft play is bad. If you have it then consider rebuilding your turbo.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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you will have minimal "side to side" shaft play, this is due to the clearances between the bearing and the shaft. the oil pressure fills this area. you should never have "in and out" play..
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edit: excessive "side to side" shaft play is noticable when the wheels are hitting the housings.

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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 02:54 AM
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The turbo in question has no "in and out" play, however, when moved up and down it seems like there is about 1 mm of full movement.
The turbine will not make contact with the housing, but it looks pretty close when you wobble it up and down.
Just trying to determine what "minimal" is.... can you actually see the turbine moving?

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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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you will have minimal "side to side" shaft play, this is due to the clearances between the bearing and the shaft. the oil pressure fills this area. you should never have "in and out" play..
thanks
let me see if I understand this, the oil pressure compensates for the minimal up/down shaft play? so basically, as long as the wheel still has clearance from the housing then it's fine but if the shaft moves in/out then the turbo needs a rebuild.

is that correct? can we get a few more opinions from the experts on this?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 05:17 AM
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Lots of mis-information in here and a few correct responses..

You can have side to side shaft play.. You should use your own judgement as to whether or not its too much.. Its the in and out shaft play your truly concerned with.. If there is no in and out shaft play --- your good..
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 05:27 AM
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you have to rember that there is a oil clearance in there there is going to be some if not the oil will never get to the bearing that good

and did you try this when it was dry or put some oul though it and then spin the shaft and you will see that it will take some of the play up, and when the oil starts to get pushed out from under the bushing it will get loser

that is just my .02 cents
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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this is getting a little confusing...please people, if you don't know don't guess!!!

Lots of mis-information in here and a few correct responses..
You can have side to side shaft play.. You should use your own judgement as to whether or not its too much.. Its the in and out shaft play your truly concerned with.. If there is no in and out shaft play --- your good..
I'm not very familiar with turbos so I wouldn't trust my own judgement on this. the shaft moves up about 1/2mm and down about 1/2mm, so basically about 1mm of up/down shaft play. the shaft doesn't move in/out at all.

would a brand spankin new non ball bearing turbo have any up/down shaft play?

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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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Camille??? you joined the darkside since when????
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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i just got a t3/t04e (the one in my avatar) about 2 wks. ago and it has a little up/down shaft play, thats normal, dont worry bout it as long as it doesnt hit the housing and does move foreward backward or in out whatever you want to call it.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Camille??? you joined the darkside since when????
ever since I discovered that you can make cwazy powa with 13.5:1 compression and boost y0!!!

can we get a few more opinions please on shaft play: what is acceptable
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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TTT.
Forum moving rather quickly...

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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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how much shaft play is normal?
the more the better! if i don't have enough shaft play, i complain to my girlfriend.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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ggod one.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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