OK, how about a computer for my CRX turbo project. Should I go Hondata or Halltech. If Halltech, is the E6K the right model?

Thanks!
Raul

 

I assume CRX's are OBD-0 so Haltech E6K is what you'd want.

 

Haltech is a nasty **** ems. It's just sometimes really hard to understand everything it does. I don't have obe but my friend does and I love his, just a little confussing at times.


Lee

 

hondata...

 

Haltech e6k is pretty easy to use and understand. But if the choice was haltech or hondata, I would choose Hondata!

 

Both are great systems so you cant go wrong with either one you choose, just make sure you have a tuner that knows the haltech or hondata.

 

yup, that is the most important whing you should look at. I have a Haltech and a pro who has programmed it!

 

For the love of god go hondata! I have had haltech, nothing but problem after problem. I tune all my ems systems myself. I set the car up per the manual, and had the help of a rx7 friend who is very experienced with the haltech systems. I could NEVER get the idle down. It either started, or didnt. It either ran good, or didnt. I tore my hair out trying to get the thing to preform right. I heard all good things about the ems, but when it came down performing it just didnt. I finally gave up on it and sold it a few months back and went hondata. Hondata by far is the best thing i have bought for my car. My honda turn key reliabiliy is back once again, the car is the fastest it has been ever, hands down. Dont let everyone fool you, the Haltech is a full race ems that takes ALOT of time to get it set-up to work well on the street. I must have spent at least 100 hours of chasing problem after problem, only in the end to go and buy the hondata. Let me say that if i was building a race car the haltech would be on the top of the list of ems's, but actually i'd rather run the tec-3 system with DIS.


[Modified by boosted hybrid, 2:38 PM 11/5/2002]

 

i got the hondata 4b, but my friend has the haltech in his RX7 and no probs with his .

 

Haltech install: 2 days of lazy working and some worked out a perfect wiring

Haltech tuning on 720cc: 8 hours on the street with wide band O2, 5 hours on the dyno with wbO2.....idle is perfect like stock.

 

We used the Haltech for 3.5 years on our race car.....Hard to use at first but once you get familiar its easy. As a matter-of-fact we are selling the unit out of our car. We just replaced it with a FAST SEQ system. Ours is for sale for $850 with senosors / trim **** and harness. The harness is wired for 8 injectors and 4 individual coils. The entire harness is in uncut form, we just tied into the unterminated ends with weather pack connectors. We did this so that if needed you can remove the ends and the harness will be like new.

And we also sell the Hondata units too....

We have found that for a street car, nothing beats a Hondata.

Howard

 

I have to admit that the tuning of the Haltech was quite easy, it took me a very short time with my wideband to set-up and have a respectable map. The idle was never right, for whatever reason. I might just be an isolated case, but no matter what i did it would not run right at idle and woud usually die out at stop lights. The main problem was that the reluctor was picking up frequencies from the engine bay and skipping to the higher fuel maps at idle and having to much fuel as flooding itself. That is where i spent my time trying to figure out where the stupid noise was coming from, but to no success. Haltech is an awesome ems, but with my configuration that i had it set-up in (plug and play, using modified stock distributor) it did not work. If you want the best for the street and even high horsepower go with hondata. The stock honda computer is the best for honda engines, hands down no matter what arguements i hear. Turn key reliability, good gas mileage and engine diagonositcs are still retained with it.

 

Jesus you guys are awesome

Not only do I get replies, but experienced replies! I'm going HONDATA

Thanks a mil

 

too bad, a Haltech E6K is the deal for a turbo car. I love mine. Using stock Honda dist and it idles like stock with 550s and 60psi base fuel pressure. runs great.

 

if you really wanna go budget and easy.

http://www.zdyne.com

thats even easier than hondata.

guess depends on how much you know.

 

Since people are listing times to tune, i thought i would just throw out that my 4b took 2.5 hrs to dyno tune to 1bar on 720cc injectors. It idles like stock, hondata is great. talk to kyle at http://www.ks-motorsports.com for good hondata deals.

 

hehe, I bet you started with an raw map or nearly perfect map already, right? I tuned from zeroooooo

 

ZDyne is a good system, but it is not practical for anything that is 92 or later. It's made for OBD0 (88-91) Civic/Integra computers. You can use a Zdyne on a later car, but you need to swap in an OBD0 distributor and the system has no ability to datalog.

Sonny

 

Yeah, it took me 3 hours total to tune the basemap with the hondata with my wideband. I started from scratch, using only a idle mapping for the 720cc's. The haltech didnt have a auto-trace wideband feature like the hondata (the % lambda differences between target and actual), so it was hard to reference the exact point where fuel needed to be added. There is no one that has basemaps accessable for the Haltech, there is zero customer service. Try calling them up with a problem, its a joke. I got a person on the phone once, and they referred me back to the manual which didnt help very much in the first place. All my experience with Hondata has been great, friendly customer service, easy as pie to tune and overall keeping the honda reliability. My car is DAILY DRIVEN, not weekend driven, or track driven. For a Daily driven, street car hondata is virtually unbeatable. Just my 2 cents.

 

Completely agree.

 

sonny,
he said crx thats why i said zdyne. crx's =non obd!!!

cheap too man like 600 bucks for the whole thing.

either that of haltech would be my choice. remember hondata is for obd1, he would have to do a whole obd0 to obd1 changeover.

just do zdyne or haltech. the e6k won't be a problem to tune figuring hes in puerto rico, there are plenty of haltech tuners over there.

 

hondata is offered for crx's

 

are you serious, i never knew that.
link me please.

 

The Haltech e11 is coming out soon (already out in Australia). It has alot more functionality and input/outputs, with Windows software. It's planned NA price is $1300.00 or so USD. Expect the E6k to drop in price when the E11 hits our shores.

I have the E6k. No problems, excellent idle, real time tuning.