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95cxh22a 08-02-2005 11:46 AM

Re: (Si Shane)
 
well, im not completely sure, but i think he was at about 7psi by around 35-3700 in third, but with the clutch slipping it was hard to tell. im pretty sure he was hitting 10 by 4500-5000. cant remember. seemed to spool really well to me since this turbo is huge.(i thought they could support 600whp, 60lb hr right) anytime it went above 6-7 psi, the clutch started to slip. the more we drove, the more it slipped. at first 3rd would hold, then as the tuning went on, it eventually was slipping in 2nd. as soon as we get the clutch in, ill give updates.

oh his exaust consists of a summit turbo3'muffler(the $20 ones) and a dynomax race bullet(18"). full 3" piping all mandrel. you can see some pics on the previous page(i think)

si shane, i dont think you will have a problem with spool time, even on a b16(not sure though)

like i said, i cant wait to get mine going, but mine will be on a gsr with itr trans(4.40 final) the b16 is probably sold.

drumking15 08-02-2005 12:02 PM

ya spool is def not the prob w/ the hx35 if you have a decent motor...traction becomes an issue around 10psi...some hit about the 350 mark around 12-14psi...i tell you one thing on 7psi stock exh the car pulls....open dp is no joke full boost by 4200 and all pull...no dieing out up top...

phatrick2332 08-02-2005 04:05 PM

What was the hy-35 found on originally? I know the hx-35 was put on the earlier cummins diesel trucks but im not sure about the hy's origin. Sorry if its been answered, i didnt have time to read all 9 pages.

LoSt is BlaCk 08-02-2005 04:22 PM

Re: (phatrick2332)
 
the holset users on h-t is a cult, i like having few people using them...makes them easy to find...and it makes our projects that much more special...let's keep it that way.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95cxh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, my boy got his ls running on the holset. and all was well till a fourth gear pull, and the clutch started slipping. oh well it is a stock clutch. i think hes going to order something tomorrow.

but i must say it felt good for the first run on a slipping clutch, it was hard for me to tune cause of the clutch, but i cant wait to get mine running.

any questions?</TD></TR></TABLE>

glad to hear it's running strong...besides the clutch...i'm still staring at both me hx's... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif damn i want this thing to be finished already, i need to pick up the pace

fyi, hy's come off automatic trucks...

drumking15 08-02-2005 05:41 PM

Re: (LoSt is BlaCk)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LoSt is BlaCk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the holset users on h-t is a cult, i like having few people using them...makes them easy to find...and it makes our projects that much more special...let's keep it that way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I like the fact that it absolutely massive....it'll eat almost any normal t3/t4...and it has the pull to go w/ it.....not to mention it sounds so mean open dp....did i forget to mention i love my hx35...screw sc61's and gt35rs....yea they are nice...but im really eager to see someone step up and run a hx35/40 hybrid....70+cfm/min is def gonna get some big power....still waiting on my dam avcr solenoid....7lbs is weaksuace....i cant wait to hit 14...and see what my teg can really do https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

sqad_7 08-03-2005 02:51 PM

Re: (drumking15)
 
where can you find one of these turbos?

drumking15 08-04-2005 02:48 AM

Re: (sqad_7)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sqad_7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where can you find one of these turbos?</TD></TR></TABLE>

egay has quite a few....besides that call up some desiel truck shops and tell them your looking for a hx35 for your truck....dont mention its a honda or any gas powered car for that matter...most will hang the phone up in your face....b18turbo has some connects to get some decent ones...look thru the post and youll find the answers https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

sqad_7 08-04-2005 08:53 AM

Re: (drumking15)
 
thank you for the help

sqad_7 08-05-2005 08:15 AM

Re: (sqad_7)
 
is the Hx35 is a internally gated turbo? If so how do you go about closing the wastegate flapper?

LoSt is BlaCk 08-05-2005 08:24 AM

Re: (sqad_7)
 
the factory units are, but after market housings are avalible...some of the guys have welded them if i remember correctly...

Paul_VR6 08-05-2005 03:48 PM

Re: (LoSt is BlaCk)
 
They can actually come both ways, both mine and a friends have none. Depends on the application/year. Ours are both off of Cummins 5.9ISB motors (just like the Dodge Rams) but the only difference is the exhaust housing. Might come from a generator motor or something.

LoSt is BlaCk 08-05-2005 04:05 PM

Re: (Paul_VR6)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paul_VR6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They can actually come both ways, both mine and a friends have none. Depends on the application/year. Ours are both off of Cummins 5.9ISB motors (just like the Dodge Rams) but the only difference is the exhaust housing. Might come from a generator motor or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is possible, now i'd like to know for sure...learn something everyday https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

drumking15 08-05-2005 07:15 PM

read earlier in the post...you take off the wg actuator...and bend the wg tap over the actaul housing...then make a steel plate and put a bolt in thru it...i used a lil steel plate i had kickin around....holds shut and no need for welding...pretty simple fix

95cxh22a 08-12-2005 08:15 PM

Re: (drumking15)
 
well, just an update on my boys hatch.(dark blue one)

got the new fuel pump in, installed my rc550's(the dsm 380's were maxing out), put in a new six puck and went riding(and tuning), clutch is still seating, but it feels really good. hit over 11lbs on his ls. with consistent 10lbs pulls.

we also lowered the front, ran out of time thursday night to put the back on.

we were going to the TRACK tonight, but it started raining hard at about 6:30 here.

as to my project, i finally got around to tearing down my trans, gotta order parts next, then im gonna get back on my project of putting my holset on.

sqad_7 08-12-2005 11:43 PM

Re: (95cxh22a)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95cxh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as to my project, i finally got around to tearing down my trans, gotta order parts next, then im gonna get back on my project of putting my holset on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what type of turbo are you running?

steelies 08-13-2005 03:50 AM

Re: (sqad_7)
 
Dumb question, but here it is: What are the gated hx35w set at?

I wouldn't want to push much more than 15psi or so on my built bottom end, right now anyway

95cxh22a 08-13-2005 07:11 AM

Re: (steelies)
 
h1c with a hx35w exhaust housing.

as far as what they are gated at stock, i think its either 16 or 26psi, i can ask my dodge friend monday at work.

Si Shane 08-13-2005 12:13 PM

Re: (95cxh22a)
 
you have to buy a wastegate to use this turbo. Weather it is a new internal or an external, you need one https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

model x 08-13-2005 01:14 PM

Re: (Si Shane)
 
another holset user here
I'm using a hy35 from an 01 Ram I got for free at work, it was replaced under warrenty because the wastegate was stuck https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif the replacement was $2100CDN
b16
custom manifold
2.5" dp
2.25" exhaust
38mm wg 7psi going to 10psi any day now
starion intercooler

Turbo starts spooling around 4500rpm and I'm getting full boost at 7000rpm. My wastegate might be leaking though. I can feel exhaust coming out of my dump tube at idle.


http://copperpenney.com/crxsite/tmp/newEngineBay.JPG


http://copperpenney.com/crxsite/tmp/newEngineBay2.JPG

drumking15 08-13-2005 02:32 PM

ditch the screen...im so close to having my car fully tuned...finally ot my avcr all hooked up...still workin out some bugs w/ crome...but by the end of the week...ill have some input on how well these run past 10lbs...heading for 14-15psi...btw someone who mention map sensors are expensive....a motorla 3bar is 15 shipped from digikey...heh

Si Shane 08-13-2005 03:51 PM

Re: (drumking15)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ditch the screen...im so close to having my car fully tuned...finally ot my avcr all hooked up...still workin out some bugs w/ crome...but by the end of the week...ill have some input on how well these run past 10lbs...heading for 14-15psi...btw someone who mention map sensors are expensive....a motorla 3bar is 15 shipped from digikey...heh</TD></TR></TABLE>

3 or 2.5? In either case i was referring to a map sensor to run the hx30 at high boost, something not quite available for use freeware guys.

steelies 08-13-2005 04:14 PM

Re: (Si Shane)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95cxh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h1c with a hx35w exhaust housing.

as far as what they are gated at stock, i think its either 16 or 26psi, i can ask my dodge friend monday at work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what would you recommend as far as that purchase would go? I wouldn't mind it being gated at say between 8-12psi. Again, thanks for the info.

sqad_7 08-13-2005 07:58 PM

Re: (steelies)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ditch the screen...im so close to having my car fully tuned...finally ot my avcr all hooked up...still workin out some bugs w/ crome...but by the end of the week...ill have some input on how well these run past 10lbs...heading for 14-15psi...btw someone who mention map sensors are expensive....a motorla 3bar is 15 shipped from digikey...heh</TD></TR></TABLE>

can't wait to see this setup. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

drumking15 08-13-2005 08:15 PM

ill work on getin my server back up tommorrow...then hopefully with ,y last paycheck before i head back to skewl ill eb able to hit the dyno and show you all what a hx35 is capable of...you wont be dissapointed...i garantee you that!

btw i was speaking of a 3bar....its omehting like 10.50...plus 5 shipping...run uber and thats about as cheap as you can get https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif for all the cheap guys wanting to compete w/ the big boys...function over fashion...and still keeping you wallet....i have a https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif to that https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

wantboost 08-14-2005 08:43 AM

Re: (model x)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by model x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another holset user here
I'm using a hy35 from an 01 Ram I got for free at work, it was replaced under warrenty because the wastegate was stuck https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif the replacement was $2100CDN
b16
custom manifold
2.5" dp
2.25" exhaust
38mm wg 7psi going to 10psi any day now
starion intercooler

Turbo starts spooling around 4500rpm and I'm getting full boost at 7000rpm. My wastegate might be leaking though. I can feel exhaust coming out of my dump tube at idle.


http://copperpenney.com/crxsite/tmp/newEngineBay.JPG


http://copperpenney.com/crxsite/tmp/newEngineBay2.JPG </TD></TR></TABLE>

you have two problems here...

a) 2.5" dp and 2.25" exhaust. if these were largened up to say 3" you would see full boost around 5k or so.
b)your wastegate is missing the fire ring that seal it against the flange. find one of these and watch your spool time magically decrease as well


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