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Holset users unite!
I'm about to turbo my LS and I am definitly going to use an HX35. I've been searching on here and homemade turbo about these turbos, but I think i't be cool if everyone that is using one would post in here about their setup, pix, and expecially videos. I'm getting excited because its all about to go on my car, and i'd like to see everyone elses setups!
I will be using: BMCrace log manifold greddy type s bov tial 38mm wastegate, .8 bar spring dsm 450's turboedit JRC "new" 8" intercooler Holset HX35 Stealthmode oil line kit custom charge piping custom 3" exhaust w/ N1 muffler This is all going on my 91 Integra Lets see what everyone else has https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif Modified by soon2brb240 at 10:38 PM 4/26/2005 |
iam interested in this too, i have a b16, thinking about an hx30....hmmm?
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Re: (91efniner)
Bump for everyone online tonight, i'd really LOVE to see anything you have...
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Re: (soon2brb240)
Friend has one on his DSM https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
Rebuilt 6 bolt with Wiseco pistons, eagle rods, 8.5:1 compression, sheetmetal intake, drag? turbonetics? random cast T3 manifold, tial 38mm gate, Holset HX35, AEM. Gone low 11's @ 120-124 on radials, it's a great turbo. 20 pounds of boost before 4000 RPM's on his 2.0, so probably a bit over 4000 on a 1.8. If I build a turbo motor for my 96 DX I'm definitely running this HX35 I have sittting here. It makes lots of power, spools quick, plus the ported shroud housing sounds damn cool https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif |
Re: (b16sedan)
I had an hx35 on my b16, still have the turbo, might use it later down the road. I ran a 13.5 with some leaky ass charge pipes in my hatch at 9 psi and about 240hp. That turbo sounds so freaking cool. I loved it. I have a nice HKS 4" filter for it if anybody needs one.
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Re: (hoggy)
going on my b16a in my 95 cx is
crfab a/c equal length mani h1c coldside and cartridge, with 12cm^2 hotside off of a hx35w rc 550's on crome or uberdata custom i/c piping custom 3" exhaust hks bov tial 38mm .6 or .8 spring jrc 8" fmic magnaflow muff or i may use a resenator off of a dodge diesel all oil and return lines, exhaust, i/c piping will be custom made by me and a really good fabricating friend https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif looking for a downpipe flange now. does anybody know if a regular 5 bolt will fit. i think i read somewhere that it wont. cant seem to find a vband flange that will fit. none of my dodge friends have any left over. all exhaust will be made from dodge diesel exhaust which come with 3" mandrel bent from factory all i/c piping will be made from heavy duty truck radiator piping( they use steel pipes.) |
i'm going to be using an HY35 on my GTi-R swapped sentra
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anymore?
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you guys with smaller (1.6, 1.8 non-vtec) motors should really think about using the HY-35 instead of the HX-35. They have a single undivided T3 flange 9 cm^2 exhaust housing that works out closer to a .48 A/R (the HX35 12 cm^2 ~= .63 AR, 16 cm^2 ~= .82AR) which will mean lightning fast spools compared to the HX35.
Steven Dick has a HX35 on his built LS and was putting down solid mid-300s on 15psi and giving liter bikes a run for their money. I'm using a HY35 on my built LS when I finally get around to building it. |
Re: (blundar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Steven Dick has a HX35 on his built LS and was putting down solid mid-300s on 15psi and giving liter bikes a run for their money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mid 300's at the wheel isn't enough to run with 1K CC bikes, unless by litre bikes you're talking about cruiser v-twin type 1000CC bikes https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif To keep up with a 600 CC bike you'll need a good amount of horsepower, 400-450 WHP depending on how light your car is. |
Re: (b16sedan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16sedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Mid 300's at the wheel isn't enough to run with 1K CC bikes, unless by litre bikes you're talking about cruiser v-twin type 1000CC bikes https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif To keep up with a 600 CC bike you'll need a good amount of horsepower, 400-450 WHP depending on how light your car is.</TD></TR></TABLE> I can't speak about liter bikes personally but i have ran against a few 600's (01 r6 and a 99 zx6r ) on the highway with my old del sol. From a 45mph roll till about 120 it was very close. I was only making ~325whp (car trapped 121-122) A 450whp car will rape a bike on the highway..I used to get beat by turbo honda's making less than 400whp on my 600cc...they don't have much from a roll. |
This is all good news...I'm liking the responses! About the hy35, that sounds like a good idea, but I think that full boost at about 4400 is good enough for me. I made a turbo kit for a friend that hit full boost a 2800 on an LS in 1st gear with b16 tranny, it was cool, but no traction at all... I guess if I don't like the lag, I could always get the hy35 at a later date. Does anyone have a vid, or sound clip of this damn thing? I'm really excited to get all this together. I'm just waiting on my BMCrace manifold to arrive. I'm selling my t3/t04e turbo i've got now, because I just keep thinkin about the hx35 https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
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I'll be running one on a 83mm LS
Hoping for 500+ ETA approx 2 months. |
cool cool
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Re: (91efniner)
Tell me more about the hy35...I'm trying to get to the magic 300whp with my stock LS. The guy that i'm getting the holset through has an hy35 in great condition, but not any good hx's...so I'm thinkin about running the hy. Does anyone have any experience with these? Should they be able to get me to my goal? Thanks guys https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
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Ls/vtec
b18a block 1857cc 9:1 cr 81.5mm 89mm stroke eagle rods acl bearings arias slugs pnp gsr head itr valves all new seals to boot!!! skunk2 mani lightweight flywheel gsr tranny turbo crap: 780cc injectors uberdata tuned nuekin mani tial 38mm gate holset hx35 snail w/ 3" vband dp to open dp... and also to stock exh w/ recirculated wg a/w intercooled 3bar map avc-r shooting for a decent 300 for the street...hopin around 10psi... then 400 for the track...around 14-15... we'll see |
Re: (drumking15)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ls/vtec
b18a block 1857cc 9:1 cr 81.5mm 89mm stroke eagle rods acl bearings arias slugs pnp gsr head itr valves all new seals to boot!!! skunk2 mani lightweight flywheel gsr tranny turbo crap: 780cc injectors uberdata tuned nuekin mani tial 38mm gate holset hx35 snail w/ 3" vband dp to open dp... and also to stock exh w/ recirculated wg a/w intercooled 3bar map avc-r shooting for a decent 300 for the street...hopin around 10psi... then 400 for the track...around 14-15... we'll see</TD></TR></TABLE> also just finished tuning idle...hopefully get uberdata dataloggin workin to tune this ont he streets monday https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif ill have vids and plenty of info for you guys...then in about a month ill prob be heading to the dyno https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif |
I'm counting on you drum for the info on how it performs. . .my project is looking like it's going to take another month.
I spent some of my money on something other than a car part for once (first time in over a year it seems) Delays delays, god damn hobby. Looking forward to seeing your results buddy. |
Well, since i'm just so impatient, I'm gonna go ahead and get the hy. I'll of course let everyone know how it does, i'm fully expecting it to be able to achieve my goals. Anyway guys, I'm lookin forward to seeing the vids and dyno's from everyone elses setup! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
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ya im quite eager to see how well this massive turbo is gonna be...ive always been about holsets...good turbo for unbeatable prices...
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Re: (drumking15)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya im quite eager to see how well this massive turbo is gonna be...ive always been about holsets...good turbo for unbeatable prices...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, you can't beat the price. I am running the HX35 on my B16; spool time is overrated. At 5000 rpms you had better be pointed in a straight line. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif |
Re: (powerofdreams8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by powerofdreams8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, you can't beat the price. I am running the HX35 on my B16; spool time is overrated. At 5000 rpms you had better be pointed in a straight line. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif </TD></TR></TABLE> Hell yea, thats EXACTLY what I'm wanting to hear. But what do you think about the hy35 on an LS? I'm thinking like a 4000 full boost? Am I being too optomistic? Well, I guess i'll find out soon enough, but if anyone has any input, just lemme know!!
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Re: (soon2brb240)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soon2brb240 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Hell yea, thats EXACTLY what I'm wanting to hear. But what do you think about the hy35 on an LS? I'm thinking like a 4000 full boost? Am I being too optomistic? Well, I guess i'll find out soon enough, but if anyone has any input, just lemme know!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude, don't sweat the spool time. Buy what is available, be it hx35 or hy35; whatever you can find a good deal on. I promise you won't be disappointed with either, it puts a smile on my face EVERYTIME I boost. |
Re: (blundar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Steven Dick has a HX35 on his built LS and was putting down solid mid-300s on 15psi and giving liter bikes a run for their money. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats mid-300's on 12psi Dave https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16sedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Mid 300's at the wheel isn't enough to run with 1K CC bikes, unless by litre bikes you're talking about cruiser v-twin type 1000CC bikes To keep up with a 600 CC bike you'll need a good amount of horsepower, 400-450 WHP depending on how light your car is.</TD></TR></TABLE> I have an '88 CRX HF. It's an 1800lb car from the factory. It's got built 2L LS with an HX35 hanging off the front. I've run plenty of 600's, a built 750, and a new gixxer 1000. The only one that I couldn't over take was the gixxer 1000. He only gapped me by a bike length from 55~125. Original poster, HX35 is a great turbo but it LIKES the big boost. You prolly won't be happy with it on the low(6~10psi) settings. The turbo really comes alive starting around 12~14psi, but hey it's made to run 16~20psi from the factory all the time. It's designed to run high pressure ratios on 6.0L diesel trucks not 6~8psi on a 1.8L 4 clyinder....Please consider the compressor maps that you can find on http://www.holset.com. |
Re: (Speed PHreak)
Yea, I hear ya and I am going to run right at 12 psi. This is going to be my first turbo honda, so I'm sure i'll be happy as long as it pulls until redline. I've been researching this stuff for so long, I'm just ready to get it running!
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Re: (soon2brb240)
I hope that you plan on tuning that setup very well and even then I wouldn't try pushing 12psi all the time on a bone stock engine. From the looks of your parts list you're trying to fab up a homebrew-ish turbo kit. The HX35 is equivalent flow-wise to a T61, 62-1, ect ect. It makes big power numbers, upawrds up 600hp. Since I don't see any forged internals in your setup I'd recommend going with an HX30, it's much more stock engine friendly. Especially seeing how you have a 91 intergra that most likey has over 150k miles on it. The HX30 spools very fast and puts out the same power as a mid-sized t3/t4 turbo.
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hey stevie...joey talked me into an hy for my GTi-R...what ya thinK?
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Re: (rhd)
Hellz yea dude. Bastid spools nasty fast from what I've heard, makes the power too. GTi-R eh, when did you pick that up?
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should get it tommorrow
has some wiring issues....but nothing a nerd like joey can't help me figure out bidding on one right now (hy) what should i limit myself to spending? |
Re: (rhd)
HY? I wouldn't go over 350~400 for a new/reman something used and good conidition I wouldn't go over 200~250.
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werd
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Well, actually, I just rolled over 106k on my car. And yes, I will be tuned, xenocron is being really helpful with that...but thats not even my question or concern, I know the limits of LS's. I was just wondering if the HY will be able to do 300whp with a nice solid tune. Also, if anybody wants to purchase one of these turbos you could contact ht member b18bturbo, he's got a source for these, and his prices are great! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
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Re: (soon2brb240)
The HX35 and the HY35 both have the same compressor wheel/housing, just different exhuast turbines/housings. Both will make 300whp with ease.
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Great, thats what I thought, just wanted to hear someone else say it I guess...haha. Think I would have to go to a diesel aftermarket store to find a flange for the hy if it doesn't come with one? I need to make up my downpipe and I know the hx uses a v-band, but from what I've seen, the hy doesen't. Also, are the hx and hy oil and drain fittings the same?
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Re: (soon2brb240)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soon2brb240 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Think I would have to go to a diesel aftermarket store to find a flange for the hy if it doesn't come with one? I need to make up my downpipe and I know the hx uses a v-band, but from what I've seen, the hy doesen't. Also, are the hx and hy oil and drain fittings the same? </TD></TR></TABLE>
AFAIK the HY35 uses the stadard T3 flange just like the HX35, any T3 manifold will bolt up to it. They both uses the regular T3 styles oil drain flange. However the HX and HY compressors are almost 9" in diameter at thier widest points....That makes it a bit difficult to get proper fitment. You are going to have to do some radical modifications to the front of your car to fit the turbo and I strongly doubt that your choosen turbo manifold will angle the HX/HY properly. You'll be hitting the block with the turbo. I have a shitty SSAC manifold on my setup, I ended up rotating the turbo flange around 30 degrees just to make clearances. My CRX front end and your Integra share a alot of similarities in design under the hood. You will most likely loose your A/C if you haven't gotten rid of it already. Since you've got a DA chassis you'll prolly have to get a new front cross-member to have any room to route a downpipe(especially a 3") and a 1/2 width radiator...those items are a minimum. |
to make mine fit in a teg...had to chop my ac bracket in half....and im runnin a nuekin mani and it fits in there pretty nice...
http://h00045a28953c.ne.client2.attb...0805_small.JPG http://h00045a28953c.ne.client2.attb...0806_small.JPG http://h00045a28953c.ne.client2.attb...0807_small.JPG some nics pics of a holset snail https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif |
Well, it is true that our cars have many similarities, but since you've got a b swapped into your crx there is significantly less room than in an integra engine bay. My friend has a b16 swapped EF and i've got easily twice the room from the front of my motor to the radiator than he does. And you are correct about the AC, its coming off. My BMCrace manifold places the turbo at kind of a "forward angle" so i'll see if its enough. I'll post everything once its done. I'll definitly come back to this thread if i've got any problems when i'm putting it together. Thanks for everyones support!
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im just gald everyone is seeing what i saw about 6 months ago....a good turbo not used by everyone...me and friends predicted this will soon become the poor man's bandwagon heh
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Well, since I am poor, and this is HT, a new bandwagon is in the making!!
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Re: (rhd)
heres mine when i had it on
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg the holset is on my friends supra now. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif |
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