Im planning on doing my first turbo on my D16z6 in my 92 CX hatch. I got a 1988 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe IHI RHB52 Turbo for free. I know all about the adapter plates to use my old CX manifold and such. My question has to do with fuel managment. I plan on using the Thunderbird intercooler since it was free too. So it will be intercooled. Im doing all this on a low budget. So when it comes to the fuel management will I be ok with just a FMU and retard the timing? Im pretty sure this turbo is 8 Psi. I know the FMU is not the best but will I be able to run it on my setup without major problems? If I can what FMU should I get? Thanks for the help..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLowCrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im planning on doing my first turbo on my D16z6 in my 92 CX hatch. I got a 1988 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe IHI RHB52 Turbo for free. I know all about the adapter plates to use my old CX manifold and such. My question has to do with fuel managment. I plan on using the Thunderbird intercooler since it was free too. So it will be intercooled. Im doing all this on a low budget. So when it comes to the fuel management will I be ok with just a FMU and retard the timing? Im pretty sure this turbo is 8 Psi. I know the FMU is not the best but will I be able to run it on my setup without major problems? If I can what FMU should I get? Thanks for the help..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would have to say, and many others will agree that if you didn't already buy the FMU..save your money and get yourself Uberdata, its basically free and a lot better than an FMU. Search up uberdata on this board of go to http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata

 

Im just trying to build this setup as cheap as I can. How much would it cost to go with uberdata? Im sure I wouldnt have a problem soldering the ECU. But would a fuel pump and FMU be just as good and cheaper? Well not as good but get me by?

 

tuning may be a problem for me too since I dont think there is a Dyno anywhere near me.. So will I just be able to get the Uberdata Kit so I can chip my P28 ECU and then buy a Burner and find a program that will fit my needs without tuning?

 

well yea uberdata is free but unless u can tune it yourself you will be paying 350.00+ to have it tuned. some people do run with just a fmu,pump but it would be wise to have it tuned in some manner.

 

Im planning on running a AF gauge,boost,and EGT gauge. So would these gauges help me tune it enough to be reliable for daily driving? Im really thinking of going uber but tuning is gonna be the hard part unless there was a way I could find a map that will match my application.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLowCrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im planning on running a AF gauge,boost,and EGT gauge. So would these gauges help me tune it enough to be reliable for daily driving? Im really thinking of going uber but tuning is gonna be the hard part unless there was a way I could find a map that will match my application.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was wondering this also....

 

just make a basemap, and go from there. A basemap that is rich, is completely drivable.

 

you have to tune it, your gonna need a wideband o2 set up if your gonna do it yourself, or find someone that has one, uberdata has datalogging built into it so all you have to do is set up the dataloging on your ecu, go to http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler65/honda/

for more info.

 

but if you don't have the money for a wideband. Make a high RPM pull, shut the car off and check the plugs. Just to make sure, and as soon as you can get a wideband or take it to a dyno.

 

So FMU and fuel pump is out of the question?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLowCrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im just trying to build this setup as cheap as I can. How much would it cost to go with uberdata? Im sure I wouldnt have a problem soldering the ECU. But would a fuel pump and FMU be just as good and cheaper? Well not as good but get me by?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ive spent just under 100 bucks on uberdata, never been in the market for these but i believe that a fuel pump and fmu would cost more. Buy the 100$ of stuff (chipping stuff and burner), download the program, make a basemap, burn it, put it in, and presto, running better and probobaly cheaper than an fmu and fuel pump

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just make a basemap, and go from there. A basemap that is rich, is completely drivable. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

An Uberdata basemap ownz an FMU

 

uberbase map ownz everything except a tuned ubermap

 

Ok I found a dyno about 3 hours away in NC. So if I go with a Uber basemap Id be safe to drive there to get it tuned? Would I be better off to do the Datalogging mod to my ecu while im at it? Im just new to all this FI stuff. SO once I goto the dyno would they be able to tune my ECU there or would I have to burn the ROM myself? Im just seeing what exactly im gonna have to do to goto the darkside..

 

also which uber basemap would I need to make? Im just trying to figure all this stuff out before I put the turbo on my car.

 

you need to go to the uberdata website and do some reading it is very easy. Just make a basemap that fits your engine and ecu.

 

ok so what about the tuning part in the previous reply? Anybody got any good links on uberdata?

 

yea, search google for uberdata, and go to the main site... it has the best info.

 

have you read here?
http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler65/honda

What kind of injectors do you have? you should probably still get a walbro 255 pump, its only 80$. Im runing a d16z w/ uber you can use my map its beerbongs basically just imported to version 1.7 However I need to know all the specs to make sure it'll work for your car.

 

So if i go with uberdata and the datalogging feature I will be able to goto a dyno and tune my car myself with my laptop? As far as setup goes P28ECU, D16Z6 swap stock, Stock Injectors and fuel pump. 88 ford thunderbird Warner Ishi IHI turbo (Rhb52) 8PSI, Stock thunderbird intercooler, Custom piping, CX manifold with adapter plate.. If you need to know anything else post it up.

Thanks

 

you are going to need bigger injectors, stock is not good enough. And you can just take your lap top, no need for datalogging at the dyno, it does it for you.. IE, wideband and dyno numbers/rpm. So just have them tune it or if you know what you are doing, you can do it. But I would read up a lot.

 

yea, def need some 440's for 8psi. You can get RC or dsm 450's but you need to wire in resistors for them. And your gonna need a new fuel pump. Also at 8psi you might need a stronger clutch. And flywheel while your at it. My ACT clutch sliped the other day at 9psi, so stock will not hold. Turbocharging is a big investment of time and money.

 

yeh im learing this.. I may just sell the turbo and Ic.. And buy a kit sometime soon seems easier