ill_take_one

Just curious to waht you guys think about the HKS manifold? Anyone used it or heard about it?
Not too bad of a price....
Thoughts/opinions?
Thanks

JalopySiR

That is not an HKS manifold, well not one for a Honda anyway. The HKS Honda manifolds are not externally gated and have a T-25 flange(not DSM!). I currently have one, and the quality is good. If you are starting up a homemade kit and don't know too much about forced induction in general, I would go for something with a T-3 flange. So much easier. Just My .02

sgT

well, late model eclipses came with t25

JalopySiR

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Yes, that is correct. However, they have DSM specific turbine housings and are, therefore, completely different from every other T-25 in the universe.

sgT

fyi its not DSM, its mitsibishi turbine. mitsubishi makes turbos. DSM does not.

JalopySiR

Yes, you are correct Mitsubishi does make turbos. However, it does not make the T-25. It is made my Garrett for Diamond Star Motors(DSM). These are the cars that the Garrett made T-25 would go on. Garrett uses a turbine housing cast made specific for DSMs. They will not fit any other T-25 flanges.

sgT

Ahhh, i havent heard that one yet.

JalopySiR

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

Dee

That is the SARD/Top Fuel K26 manifold. I own one excactly like it and another friend has one on his EG6.

Charles B.

for a k26, eh? how much do these manifolds go for and what kind of w/g flange comes on the manifold? TIA

Dee

That manifold brand new is $1200+ by itself and uses Blitz w/g flanges. The Kit with manifold, K26 turbo, Blitz w/g and DP is $4600. WAY over priced but typical of Top Fuel. HKS Kyushu does make a stainless mani for GT series turbos but it is also $1200+.

I got my used kit complete for $400 off of a japanese auction page.

ill_take_one

Ok, maybe the picture isnt the exact one for a B or D series honda. I should have figured that, because most online shops dont use exact picts. The price though shouldn't lie on their site. They're selling it for$300!?
I guess i consider that i'm somewhat knowledgable with forced induction, but i am learning something new almost every damn day on this site
I do have a question or two though..
1)what do you mean the honda manifolds arent externally gated?
2)how do you know what flange a manifold has?
3)whats the deal with 4 and 5 bolt flanges? i guess i'm not even sure what i'm tryin to ask with this?

Thanks for your input guys and not flaming my silly ***. H-T rules
Peace

JalopySiR

The "HKS" honda manifolds are not externally gated. Meaning: they do not have provisions, i.e. a flange, for an external wastgate. They must be used with an internally wastgated turbo. If you were to go to the HKS website it would list what flange is for what manifold. The manufacturer tells you what flange it is. As for 4 or 5 bolt flanges, these are usually refering to the turbine discharge, which can have any number of wacky configurations. Most INLET flanges are 4 bolt. T25, T3, T4, etc...
Also, buy nothing until you have done enough research to make you sick. I am on here almost every day. I absorb info like a sponge, but take everything with a grain of salt, alot of people just regurgitate garbage and do not know what they are talking about. Research, research, research....

ill_take_one

Hey thanks man. Thats what i thought (about the externally gated issue). Well i'm going to rule that manifold out then. I'm not going to be buying a turbo with an internal wastegate...
Any recommendations? I've only heard good things about the revhard ones.
Peace

Dee

Cast HKS manifolds use internal w/g turbos while the stainless steel HKS Kyushu manifolds use whatever w/g flange you specify.