Highest reving single cam?
10-02-2005, 11:42 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (Civicman86)
Not really the right forum for this type of question....but i rev my current dohc ZC to ~9000 and its still making power. I reved my old 1.5 sohc/vtec to 9700rpms and it was still making power. Both these motors had JG pro-series heads and big jg cams.
I get scared revin' the 1.6litres much past 9000rpms because the rod/stroke ratio isnt very good. If you want to make a sohc rev to the moon, build a 1.5, the shorter stroke will help it up there. (just like my old 1.5 sohc/vtec motor)
liam
I get scared revin' the 1.6litres much past 9000rpms because the rod/stroke ratio isnt very good. If you want to make a sohc rev to the moon, build a 1.5, the shorter stroke will help it up there. (just like my old 1.5 sohc/vtec motor)
liam
10-03-2005, 05:10 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (liam821)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not really the right forum for this type of question....but i rev my current dohc ZC to ~9000 and its still making power. I reved my old 1.5 sohc/vtec to 9700rpms and it was still making power. Both these motors had JG pro-series heads and big jg cams.
I get scared revin' the 1.6litres much past 9000rpms because the rod/stroke ratio isnt very good. If you want to make a sohc rev to the moon, build a 1.5, the shorter stroke will help it up there. (just like my old 1.5 sohc/vtec motor)
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
What tranny were you using with the SOHC Liam? I ask because Marc's old SOHC would sping to 8500, but the tranny hated life over 7500.
I get scared revin' the 1.6litres much past 9000rpms because the rod/stroke ratio isnt very good. If you want to make a sohc rev to the moon, build a 1.5, the shorter stroke will help it up there. (just like my old 1.5 sohc/vtec motor)
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
What tranny were you using with the SOHC Liam? I ask because Marc's old SOHC would sping to 8500, but the tranny hated life over 7500.
10-03-2005, 11:36 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (VTC_CiViC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_CiViC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What tranny were you using with the SOHC Liam? I ask because Marc's old SOHC would sping to 8500, but the tranny hated life over 7500.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was using a Hydro ZC tranny (similar to a 92-95 SI) - and it wasnt too happy over 7500 i just had to be careful.
liam
What tranny were you using with the SOHC Liam? I ask because Marc's old SOHC would sping to 8500, but the tranny hated life over 7500.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was using a Hydro ZC tranny (similar to a 92-95 SI) - and it wasnt too happy over 7500 i just had to be careful.
liam
10-04-2005, 07:53 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (JDMJoe2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMJoe2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dat b me fo sho ****. i be revvin to 15000rpms.....screammin vtech powa.
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what the ****... didnt we tell you to kill yourself a few threads back
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what the ****... didnt we tell you to kill yourself a few threads back
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10-04-2005, 08:01 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (liam821)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not really the right forum for this type of question....but i rev my current dohc ZC to ~9000 and its still making power. I reved my old 1.5 sohc/vtec to 9700rpms and it was still making power. Both these motors had JG pro-series heads and big jg cams.
I get scared revin' the 1.6litres much past 9000rpms because the rod/stroke ratio isnt very good. If you want to make a sohc rev to the moon, build a 1.5, the shorter stroke will help it up there. (just like my old 1.5 sohc/vtec motor)
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you ever dyno? Where did the tq and hp dropoff?
The thing that sucks with the sohc is you don't have any real adjustements for the intake and exhaust lobes....your stuck with whats ground on the one stick. Ultimately thats whats gonna change your powerband and allow you to continue making more power up top. My peak whp was at 8.2k last time we dyno'd (I think).
I get scared revin' the 1.6litres much past 9000rpms because the rod/stroke ratio isnt very good. If you want to make a sohc rev to the moon, build a 1.5, the shorter stroke will help it up there. (just like my old 1.5 sohc/vtec motor)
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you ever dyno? Where did the tq and hp dropoff?
The thing that sucks with the sohc is you don't have any real adjustements for the intake and exhaust lobes....your stuck with whats ground on the one stick. Ultimately thats whats gonna change your powerband and allow you to continue making more power up top. My peak whp was at 8.2k last time we dyno'd (I think).
10-04-2005, 08:42 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what the ****... didnt we tell you to kill yourself a few threads back</TD></TR></TABLE>
dont u be hatin noww.
da only killin i be doin is on da track yo.....slam.
hey now
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what the ****... didnt we tell you to kill yourself a few threads back
</TD></TR></TABLE>dont u be hatin noww.
da only killin i be doin is on da track yo.....slam.
hey now
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10-04-2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (JDMJoe2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMJoe2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
dont u be hatin noww.
da only killin i be doin is on da track yo.....slam.
hey now
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You have to be the biggest moron i ever came across in my 18yrs of life. You can't spell, talk right (cuz you speak some wacked out ****) and you certainly dont have a ******* clue about anything that has to do w/ motors, FI, and "Vtech yo" Will you just seriously do us all a favor, and take your 1,000whp civic that your boosting 35psi on and never return to HT?
dont u be hatin noww.
da only killin i be doin is on da track yo.....slam.
hey now
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You have to be the biggest moron i ever came across in my 18yrs of life. You can't spell, talk right (cuz you speak some wacked out ****) and you certainly dont have a ******* clue about anything that has to do w/ motors, FI, and "Vtech yo" Will you just seriously do us all a favor, and take your 1,000whp civic that your boosting 35psi on and never return to HT?
10-04-2005, 09:21 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (wantboost)
*** on now.....wheres da love.jeez.
onlyy here to represent, yo. and don'tt b bashin my knowwleegde aboutt eningines and shiat. u all coould leern a thing or 2 bout automoitive sutuff from me
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onlyy here to represent, yo. and don'tt b bashin my knowwleegde aboutt eningines and shiat. u all coould leern a thing or 2 bout automoitive sutuff from me
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10-04-2005, 09:27 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (JDMJoe2000)
you know what ive learned from you...
dont eat paint chips
dont smoke crack
dont reproduce
dont use hooked on phonics
and most importantly...
dont take advice from you
dont eat paint chips
dont smoke crack
dont reproduce
dont use hooked on phonics
and most importantly...
dont take advice from you
10-04-2005, 09:33 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (JDMJoe2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMJoe2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*** on now.....wheres da love.jeez.
onlyy here to represent, yo. and don'tt b bashin my knowwleegde aboutt eningines and shiat. u all coould leern a thing or 2 bout automoitive sutuff from me
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Dude, look at what you just wrote. How can anyone possibly take you seriously? You're a joke. Your only here to represent? Represent what?...And you know your an idiot if you spell engine: ENINGINES. Hooked on phonics > you. You have nothing to offer any of us here on HT. I mean come on now, you said you have a motor boosting 35psi. Ive NEVER seen or heard that. Tell us your setup Mr. JDM
onlyy here to represent, yo. and don'tt b bashin my knowwleegde aboutt eningines and shiat. u all coould leern a thing or 2 bout automoitive sutuff from me
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Dude, look at what you just wrote. How can anyone possibly take you seriously? You're a joke. Your only here to represent? Represent what?...And you know your an idiot if you spell engine: ENINGINES. Hooked on phonics > you. You have nothing to offer any of us here on HT. I mean come on now, you said you have a motor boosting 35psi. Ive NEVER seen or heard that. Tell us your setup Mr. JDM
10-04-2005, 10:19 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (1995Civic)
whateve fool. yo mom goes too college.
anwyaz back to da topic.... im tthe ghiighest revvin civicc. dats right . u du da.
tony
anwyaz back to da topic.... im tthe ghiighest revvin civicc. dats right . u du da.
tony
10-04-2005, 10:29 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (JDMJoe2000)
I took my last y8 setup to 8200 regularly but the tranny only lasted 6 months. After that, I couldn't even force the shifter into the next gear, it would just grind until the rpms dropped to about 7000.
10-04-2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (JDMJoe2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMJoe2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whateve fool. yo mom goes too college.
anwyaz back to da topic.... im tthe ghiighest revvin civicc. dats right . u du da.
tony
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your mom is too ******* stupid to even spell college.... she gave birth to you right?
anwyaz back to da topic.... im tthe ghiighest revvin civicc. dats right . u du da.
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your mom is too ******* stupid to even spell college.... she gave birth to you right?
10-04-2005, 12:01 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (wantboost)
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your mom is too ******* stupid to even spell college.... she gave birth to you right?
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bro, this guy isnt even worth getting worked up over....he cracks me the hell up. Ive never seen someone so ignorant before in my life. See if you can pull some strings to get this guy outta here. He's useless to this community anyway.
your mom is too ******* stupid to even spell college.... she gave birth to you right?
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bro, this guy isnt even worth getting worked up over....he cracks me the hell up. Ive never seen someone so ignorant before in my life. See if you can pull some strings to get this guy outta here. He's useless to this community anyway.
10-04-2005, 12:36 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (1995Civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1995Civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
See if you can pull some strings to get this guy outta here. He's useless to this community anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why doesn't everyone ignore him?
Just by responding to what he has to say feeds his fire.
His motive is simply to get people caught up. I actually find it funny too.
See if you can pull some strings to get this guy outta here. He's useless to this community anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why doesn't everyone ignore him?
Just by responding to what he has to say feeds his fire.
His motive is simply to get people caught up. I actually find it funny too.
10-04-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (earl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JDMJoe B gone now, never he b returnin</TD></TR></TABLE>
The legend is gone.
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The legend is gone.
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10-04-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (GITWIDIT)
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Did you ever dyno? Where did the tq and hp dropoff?
The thing that sucks with the sohc is you don't have any real adjustements for the intake and exhaust lobes....your stuck with whats ground on the one stick. Ultimately thats whats gonna change your powerband and allow you to continue making more power up top. My peak whp was at 8.2k last time we dyno'd (I think). </TD></TR></TABLE>
That is true with the sohc. With my d-series dohc, i have adjustable cam gears so i dont have that problem.
Here is the only higher hp dyno i have where i didnt have boost leaks or other problems, it was at 20psi of boost on 91 octane pump. I stopped the dyno at ~8000rpms but as you can see from the graph the power was still climbing.
I dont have a dyno of my old sohc
liam
Did you ever dyno? Where did the tq and hp dropoff?
The thing that sucks with the sohc is you don't have any real adjustements for the intake and exhaust lobes....your stuck with whats ground on the one stick. Ultimately thats whats gonna change your powerband and allow you to continue making more power up top. My peak whp was at 8.2k last time we dyno'd (I think). </TD></TR></TABLE>
That is true with the sohc. With my d-series dohc, i have adjustable cam gears so i dont have that problem.
Here is the only higher hp dyno i have where i didnt have boost leaks or other problems, it was at 20psi of boost on 91 octane pump. I stopped the dyno at ~8000rpms but as you can see from the graph the power was still climbing.
I dont have a dyno of my old sohc
liam
10-04-2005, 04:27 PM
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Re: Highest reving single cam? (VTC_CiViC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_CiViC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What tranny were you using with the SOHC Liam? I ask because Marc's old SOHC would sping to 8500, but the tranny hated life over 7500.</TD></TR></TABLE>
got that right. i had a z6 tranny. shifting was so funny... it's all WAAAAH ::tires break loose:: **CRUNCH** ::falls flat on it's face::
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JDMJoe B gone now, never he b returnin</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahah
got that right. i had a z6 tranny. shifting was so funny... it's all WAAAAH ::tires break loose:: **CRUNCH** ::falls flat on it's face::
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JDMJoe B gone now, never he b returnin</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahah