HELP BLUE BOX WIRING
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i have a BIG *** problem with the blue box.. theres i think 2-3 wires missings or in an incorrect port on my ECU harness.
I have a custom kit made up of a Garrett .42/.48, a monza BOV, DSM SMIC, and the Greddy blue box all on a fairly good shape, stock, D15B7.
(Im just screwin around to have some fun with this setup, i have a D16Z6 in the machine shop, ill strap this kit to the D16 w/ some 450's and uberdata later when its finished.)
On the sheet i got, i need to tap all 4 injector wires off the ecu harness onto the Blue box...the #1 injector is NOT in A4.. its blank.. so i tapped it to the one next to it A6... (dont worry i didnt run anything yet...)
D3 is suppose to be the MAP sensor.. THERES NOTHING IN D3?!!!??!!?? i dont get it.. i looked at the wires off the MAP sensor it self and into the ECU and still cant match it up to one anywhere near D3... Could it be the sheet i got is incorrect or is it because i have a P06 and not a P28?? i dont really think the ECU should matter though.. that harness is the same one that would plug into the P28 if i did a swap so wtf..
People i need this to run by 7pm TONIGHT.. HELP!!!
I have a custom kit made up of a Garrett .42/.48, a monza BOV, DSM SMIC, and the Greddy blue box all on a fairly good shape, stock, D15B7.
(Im just screwin around to have some fun with this setup, i have a D16Z6 in the machine shop, ill strap this kit to the D16 w/ some 450's and uberdata later when its finished.)
On the sheet i got, i need to tap all 4 injector wires off the ecu harness onto the Blue box...the #1 injector is NOT in A4.. its blank.. so i tapped it to the one next to it A6... (dont worry i didnt run anything yet...)
D3 is suppose to be the MAP sensor.. THERES NOTHING IN D3?!!!??!!?? i dont get it.. i looked at the wires off the MAP sensor it self and into the ECU and still cant match it up to one anywhere near D3... Could it be the sheet i got is incorrect or is it because i have a P06 and not a P28?? i dont really think the ECU should matter though.. that harness is the same one that would plug into the P28 if i did a swap so wtf..
People i need this to run by 7pm TONIGHT.. HELP!!!
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up top... c'mon ppl someone help me out..
just a pinout of what every port in the harness is would help greatly.. id then just find the wires to be tapped myself..
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just a pinout of what every port in the harness is would help greatly.. id then just find the wires to be tapped myself..
<FONT SIZE="4">HELP!!</FONT>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchEh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">up top... c'mon ppl someone help me out..
just a pinout of what every port in the harness is would help greatly.. id then just find the wires to be tapped myself..
<FONT SIZE="4">HELP!!</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
just a pinout of what every port in the harness is would help greatly.. id then just find the wires to be tapped myself..
<FONT SIZE="4">HELP!!</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
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i found this in the archived: (this is EXACTLY what i have on paper to work with)
Greddy Blue box:
*Blue ----------------> TAP TO #1 INJECTOR A4
Orange--------------> TAP TO #2 INJECTOR A3
Yellow----------------> TAP TO #3 INJECTOR A2
Purple----------------> TAP TO #4 INJECTOR A1
Brown----------------> TAP TO RPM SIGNAL A20
Gray------------------> TAP TO INJECTOR GROUND A9
Black------------------> TAP TO ECU GROUND A 10
*Red--------------------> TAP TO ECU POWER A 11
*Green-----------------> CUT WIRE D3 HOOK TO ECU SIDE
*White------------------> CONNECT CUT WIRE D3 TO ENGINE BAY
*Were not in there correct ports..What do i do about this???
-A4 (#1 Injector) was hooked up to the one next to it, A6
-A11 (Ecu Power) was hooked up to the one next to it, A12
-D3 (MAP sensor)...is not there and theres too many next to it to guess...
WERE THE **** ARE THESE WIRES DISAPPERING TO!!??
Greddy Blue box:
*Blue ----------------> TAP TO #1 INJECTOR A4
Orange--------------> TAP TO #2 INJECTOR A3
Yellow----------------> TAP TO #3 INJECTOR A2
Purple----------------> TAP TO #4 INJECTOR A1
Brown----------------> TAP TO RPM SIGNAL A20
Gray------------------> TAP TO INJECTOR GROUND A9
Black------------------> TAP TO ECU GROUND A 10
*Red--------------------> TAP TO ECU POWER A 11
*Green-----------------> CUT WIRE D3 HOOK TO ECU SIDE
*White------------------> CONNECT CUT WIRE D3 TO ENGINE BAY
*Were not in there correct ports..What do i do about this???
-A4 (#1 Injector) was hooked up to the one next to it, A6
-A11 (Ecu Power) was hooked up to the one next to it, A12
-D3 (MAP sensor)...is not there and theres too many next to it to guess...
WERE THE **** ARE THESE WIRES DISAPPERING TO!!??
are you sure you understand how to "count" for honda's numbering scheme? If I were you, I'd be looking up some pinouts (p28 = p30 = p06 ... only difference is vtec/knock/etc. - crap you obviously don't give a **** about) PRONTO and using wire colors instead of pins... Little harder to **** that up.
I know hondaswap.com has all the information you need in their reference section.
Blue box = evil. Use Uber off the bat y0... Disable vtec + run with it.
I know hondaswap.com has all the information you need in their reference section.
Blue box = evil. Use Uber off the bat y0... Disable vtec + run with it.
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the picture i have shows the pinouts numbered and exactly were to wire them.. BUT MY ******* HARNESS DOESNT HAVE THEM IN THAT PORT!
and its a D15B7.. NO VTEC= SO Y WOULD I GIVE A ****!
NEXT time you can just help with out sounding like an *******
and its a D15B7.. NO VTEC= SO Y WOULD I GIVE A ****!
NEXT time you can just help with out sounding like an *******
Um fucktard, I have a D15B7 in one of my vehicles and it is wired identically to the one that has a D16Z6. And the injectors are in the same spots as a GSR. And a LS. And if they weren't in the same spots, you would have to repin the connector for the ECU when changing a motor from a B7 to a Z6 to a LS to a GSR. But guess what... You don't have to rewire **** because the ******* wires are in the same place on every OBD1 car except the Vx I'm willing to bet a sixpack that this is a case of user error.
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If you cant find it and you need it rinning tonight, run a long wire from the inside on the blue box to the engine bay and tap the map off the sensor plug and figure it out at the ecu later....
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ok ok, i get it.. nevermind. your right [blundar], i was reading the schematics wrong.. i found a pinout chart on some site which helped alot. sorry about that.
Anyway, i got the whole thing running.. but due to my exhaust leak at the down pipe... i get boost spikes like crazy.
BTW: the light on the Blue Blox stays blinking.. is it suppose to be like that? if not, whats it telling me?
well its running fine then all of a sudden just an hour ago, im driving and i push in the clutch and the rpms dont go down... so the idle is just staying up REAL high (sorry no tach to tell you were at). then i pull into my friends drive way and it starts bouncing up and down.. and now it just stays high. I checked the vacuum lines and they seem fine. I checked the coolant and it was fine also.. but now i find coolant coming out of the back of the radiator.. what could be causing this erratic idle? and the blinking Blue Box?.. i soldered all the connections and tapped them off...
And No.. no CEL
Anyway, i got the whole thing running.. but due to my exhaust leak at the down pipe... i get boost spikes like crazy.
BTW: the light on the Blue Blox stays blinking.. is it suppose to be like that? if not, whats it telling me?
well its running fine then all of a sudden just an hour ago, im driving and i push in the clutch and the rpms dont go down... so the idle is just staying up REAL high (sorry no tach to tell you were at). then i pull into my friends drive way and it starts bouncing up and down.. and now it just stays high. I checked the vacuum lines and they seem fine. I checked the coolant and it was fine also.. but now i find coolant coming out of the back of the radiator.. what could be causing this erratic idle? and the blinking Blue Box?.. i soldered all the connections and tapped them off...
And No.. no CEL
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well i just found out that its the throttle plate getting stuck... i sprayed the throttle spring down with some wd40 and the throttle plate with some carb/choke cleaner..
the coolant is just a leak that had to start NOW.. wtf
but yea.. so what does the blinking light on the Blue Box mean??
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the coolant is just a leak that had to start NOW.. wtf
but yea.. so what does the blinking light on the Blue Box mean??
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thank you!..
that makes me feel ALOT better.. lol
now that nothings SERIOUSLY wrong.. i guess all i have left is that exhaust leak to run everything right.. GREAT thanks guys
ps. Blundar.. ill be keeping in touch with you
from all your other posts i've read tells me that you know your ****, wish everyone on "Honda-*******-Tech" was like that
thank you!..
that makes me feel ALOT better.. lol
now that nothings SERIOUSLY wrong.. i guess all i have left is that exhaust leak to run everything right.. GREAT thanks guys
ps. Blundar.. ill be keeping in touch with you
from all your other posts i've read tells me that you know your ****, wish everyone on "Honda-*******-Tech" was like that
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