Help with 700+ hp gsr
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Help with 700+ hp gsr
Hey guys I'm finishing my build and my goal is upward of 700 hp, jus wanted opinions on if the setup is proper for this,
Thanks in advance
Here goes,
83mm sleeved b18c1
LS crank
Cp 9:1
Manley h beams
Supertech valvetrain and valves
Bc stage 2 n/a cams
Victor x
70mm tb
Afi topmount
Afi backdoor cooler
Turbosmart 45mm wg
Turbosmart 50mm bov
PTE 6765bb t3 .82 a/r
Aem water meth
ID 1000's
Thanks in advance
Here goes,
83mm sleeved b18c1
LS crank
Cp 9:1
Manley h beams
Supertech valvetrain and valves
Bc stage 2 n/a cams
Victor x
70mm tb
Afi topmount
Afi backdoor cooler
Turbosmart 45mm wg
Turbosmart 50mm bov
PTE 6765bb t3 .82 a/r
Aem water meth
ID 1000's
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
looks good to me
im not sure about n/a cams myself but someone else can help out in that area im sure
im also assuming your running gas for fuel
im not sure about n/a cams myself but someone else can help out in that area im sure
im also assuming your running gas for fuel
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
how you going to fuel that puppy? as of now its not going anywhere lol. make sure you are flowing enough for your goal.. it also depends on what gas you want to run, c16, e85, pump?
the tranny is gonna be crying at that power. it wont take long.. just saying
is this gonna be a daily? im guessing no.. you should get a journal bearing instead of bb, spend the money somewhere else. if your using it drag, you shouldnt be falling out of boost anyways, so to me bb isnt a must for most.
the tranny is gonna be crying at that power. it wont take long.. just saying
is this gonna be a daily? im guessing no.. you should get a journal bearing instead of bb, spend the money somewhere else. if your using it drag, you shouldnt be falling out of boost anyways, so to me bb isnt a must for most.
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
Oh sorry I left out fuel, Im gonna use 2 Deatschwerks pumps -8 feed, stock return on 94 oct and 50/50 of water meth
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if you plan to make 700whp on the dot the ID 1000's are ok but your duty cycle will be close to being maxed. e85 you will need ID 2000's for sure. I would go with C16, with some ID 2000's. Wont have to worry about maxing your fuel out.
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
We don't have e85 in Canada ( I can use q16. Also the turbo is a t3 .82 a/r is that ok or do I need to go t4?
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
PM 1FASTHF
Should do more whp, at lower boost.
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Hey fuken,
Glad to see the DW301s in your build.
If you are needing more out of your injectors for your new power needs, we do have 1300cc B-series injectors which should be enough for your 700whp goal on pump gas at stock base pressures.
We also have a 1500-1700cc option coming soon.
Give me a shout if you'd like to talk about either of these options.
Glad to see the DW301s in your build.
If you are needing more out of your injectors for your new power needs, we do have 1300cc B-series injectors which should be enough for your 700whp goal on pump gas at stock base pressures.
We also have a 1500-1700cc option coming soon.
Give me a shout if you'd like to talk about either of these options.
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Maybe its a northeast thing because alot of ma,ny,nj are running on type r or bc st2 a/m cams and making well over 700whp. Im saying what anybody is saying is wrong but your cams will make 700whp no prob.
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Those cams been making power waaaaay back before all these custom or new cams came out. Pm some guys that was making over 800whp years ago when the market was limited to what was avail. Do what works not whats in bro seriously. There alot of shops and cheerleaders on here that will persuade into buying there product. Do your own r&d on those cams and you will see what im talking about
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Those cams been making power waaaaay back before all these custom or new cams came out. Pm some guys that was making over 800whp years ago when the market was limited to what was avail. Do what works not whats in bro seriously. There alot of shops and cheerleaders on here that will persuade into buying there product. Do your own r&d on those cams and you will see what im talking about
I like when guys like you who give honest opinions, we all know the pros make power, but power was made before the pros were even out.
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Those cam profiles suck, just a FYI.. and you're right, power was being made before the pro series cam out.. but at what cost?
If you could make 900+whp @ 30 psi.. would you take that over 900 @ 35 psi?..
Understand its not just lift or duration that goes into cam profiling,but also Ramp speed, ramp angle. Understand what the motor wants and needs. For a Turbo engine, that actually takes advantage of exhaust gases, you're going to want a good cam, that has a good amount of lift and some duration.. enough to allow the cyls to fill but not so much to where boost is blowing by.
You want a higher LSA on FI cams so you're not bleeding off boost in between the cam lobes. Every car is different but there is a bases to making power at more efficient levels.
If you could make 900+whp @ 30 psi.. would you take that over 900 @ 35 psi?..
Understand its not just lift or duration that goes into cam profiling,but also Ramp speed, ramp angle. Understand what the motor wants and needs. For a Turbo engine, that actually takes advantage of exhaust gases, you're going to want a good cam, that has a good amount of lift and some duration.. enough to allow the cyls to fill but not so much to where boost is blowing by.
You want a higher LSA on FI cams so you're not bleeding off boost in between the cam lobes. Every car is different but there is a bases to making power at more efficient levels.
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
The cams are usually fine as long as you have a set of adjustable cam gears... As long as the tuner knows if the motor wants more or less overlap, especially with that T3 0.82 A/R housing and 65mm turbine. I consider that turbine to be too small for 50/50 water/meth and 94 oct to make any decent power, and more so recommend a 6768 T4 instead.
Up here in Canada, we try to make as much power with limited octane due to insane race fuel prices and the lack of availability. If you do want to use Q16, then you'd probably want to upsize those injectors just to be safe. Q16 is oxygenated, and would probably need more flow to make the same power as non-oxygenated fuels.
Up here in Canada, we try to make as much power with limited octane due to insane race fuel prices and the lack of availability. If you do want to use Q16, then you'd probably want to upsize those injectors just to be safe. Q16 is oxygenated, and would probably need more flow to make the same power as non-oxygenated fuels.
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The cams are usually fine as long as you have a set of adjustable cam gears... As long as the tuner knows if the motor wants more or less overlap, especially with that T3 0.82 A/R housing and 65mm turbine. I consider that turbine to be too small for 50/50 water/meth and 94 oct to make any decent power, and more so recommend a 6768 T4 instead.
Up here in Canada, we try to make as much power with limited octane due to insane race fuel prices and the lack of availability. If you do want to use Q16, then you'd probably want to upsize those injectors just to be safe. Q16 is oxygenated, and would probably need more flow to make the same power as non-oxygenated fuels.
Up here in Canada, we try to make as much power with limited octane due to insane race fuel prices and the lack of availability. If you do want to use Q16, then you'd probably want to upsize those injectors just to be safe. Q16 is oxygenated, and would probably need more flow to make the same power as non-oxygenated fuels.
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Re: Help with 700+ hp gsr
You're the one who's gonna tune it, and are you serious about 6768? I think that's way too overboard. You better make me power with this setup lol, if cams don't cut it I'll swap them for pro 1's. Should I 'really' do water/meth? I thought it's whole purpose was so you can get away without race gas