h22 weakness
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Re: h22 weakness (deeweezy187)
other then the fact of it being a Honda motor? 
lol.
I think some parts are harder to find for them then bseries. like manifolds and such. I think the bottoms were pretty stout, but something makes me think I read something about the Rods in the past?
Try a search too, cuz i know i read some chit on here about them plenty of times
lol.
I think some parts are harder to find for them then bseries. like manifolds and such. I think the bottoms were pretty stout, but something makes me think I read something about the Rods in the past?
Try a search too, cuz i know i read some chit on here about them plenty of times
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Re: h22 weakness (deeweezy187)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deeweezy187 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are the weaknesses of the h22 engine and how can i fix them so nothing major can happen when i turbo it. I am lookin to make between 400-500whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The sleeves are not metal: they are a fiber composite that requires a special touch to run with high-psi turbo applications. I would suggest a full-sleeve job if you're planning to make that much power.
The sleeves are not metal: they are a fiber composite that requires a special touch to run with high-psi turbo applications. I would suggest a full-sleeve job if you're planning to make that much power.
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Re: h22 weakness (LostSolVTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LostSolVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think it's with the sleeves, that they need to be resleeved to use any type of forged piston. Correct me if i'm wrong
damn someone beat me to it lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what it was. I thought there was something with the rods.
damn someone beat me to it lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what it was. I thought there was something with the rods.
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Re: h22 weakness (LostSolVTEC)
The ringlands are the weakest, they'll go real quick if your not carefull. The block is made of FRM "fiber reinforced material". It's good stuff, strong as **** however it makes it real abrasive to aluminum forged pistons.
So in order for you to really up the boost you'll have to resleeve the block. (But there is a rumor that Mahles new gold coated piston is made so you don't have to resleeve). Noones tried it yet.
So in order for you to really up the boost you'll have to resleeve the block. (But there is a rumor that Mahles new gold coated piston is made so you don't have to resleeve). Noones tried it yet.
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Re: h22 weakness (rseaburgh)
Defenitely sleeve the block, the stock block will not tolerate anyboost above 8-9 psi. Save the hassle and get it sleeved, and as for h22 parts, they have plenty of aftermarket parts for them to do your build. Any help just pm me. 
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Re: h22 weakness (9sech22civic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rseaburgh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ringlands are the weakest, they'll go real quick if your not carefull. The block is made of FRM "fiber reinforced material". It's good stuff, strong as **** however it makes it real abrasive to aluminum forged pistons.
So in order for you to really up the boost you'll have to resleeve the block. (But there is a rumor that Mahles new gold coated piston is made so you don't have to resleeve). Noones tried it yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>
weisco is supposed to have a piston with coated skirts that can run in the frm sleeve also, but i have yet to see proof.
As for the weak points it is the ringlands as stated above. They will go before anything else, and they usually give out around 350ish whp
So in order for you to really up the boost you'll have to resleeve the block. (But there is a rumor that Mahles new gold coated piston is made so you don't have to resleeve). Noones tried it yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>
weisco is supposed to have a piston with coated skirts that can run in the frm sleeve also, but i have yet to see proof.
As for the weak points it is the ringlands as stated above. They will go before anything else, and they usually give out around 350ish whp
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Re: h22 weakness (b16hybridsol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16hybridsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
weisco is supposed to have a piston with coated skirts that can run in the frm sleeve also, but i have yet to see proof.
As for the weak points it is the ringlands as stated above. They will go before anything else, and they usually give out around 350ish whp</TD></TR></TABLE>
weisco is supposed to have a piston with coated skirts that can run in the frm sleeve also, but i have yet to see proof.
As for the weak points it is the ringlands as stated above. They will go before anything else, and they usually give out around 350ish whp</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: h22 weakness (LostSolVTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LostSolVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think it's with the sleeves, that they need to be resleeved to use any type of forged piston. Correct me if i'm wrong
damn someone beat me to it lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mahle just came out with a solution. . .
damn someone beat me to it lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mahle just came out with a solution. . .
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Re: h22 weakness (m R g S r)
Yeah apparently Mahle makes pistons that work with the h22 fiber sleeves now. But they are really expensive... hehe. Money that could be used towards sleeves and regular pistons.
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Re: h22 weakness (dustin)
agreed on a stock bottom its the ringlands that will go first..
the frm-compatible Mahle pistons are advertsied to so but I personally wouldnt wanna be the guinea pig for that price tag.
the frm-compatible Mahle pistons are advertsied to so but I personally wouldnt wanna be the guinea pig for that price tag.
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Re: h22 weakness (dustin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dustin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah apparently Mahle makes pistons that work with the h22 fiber sleeves now. But they are really expensive... hehe. Money that could be used towards sleeves and regular pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well said i feel warm in fuzzy inside having the sleeved block.
Well said i feel warm in fuzzy inside having the sleeved block.
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