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Old 03-15-2006, 11:17 AM
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well the time has come for change and im debating between these 2 turbos any input would help thanx

ps.... this is on a built h22
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the time has come for change and im debating between these 2 turbos any input would help thanx

ps.... this is on a built h22</TD></TR></TABLE>

GT4067 all the way The only difference between the turbos is the turbine wheel and the GT40 turbine wheel is a very very efficient wheel and out of all my customers who bought this turbo they spool very well and make good power. Not discounting the PT67 at all BUT I like the GT4067 better
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The only reason id say go with the pt67 is because it costs 1/2 as much. But the gt4067 is a better turbo.

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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (h22 civic)

why not a 40R?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not a 40R?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I had to guess I would say the price difference between the Non BB and the BB
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The only reason id say go with the pt67 is because it costs 1/2 as much. But the gt4067 is a better turbo.

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UH no. For what I sell them for it is only about $100 difference, Keep in mind both of these turbos he asked about are the NON BB versions. I just spoke to the original poster, he has heard sooo many different opinions from several dealers and Honda Tech members. I also suggested a GT4088 non BB or jump to a GT4088R if you can affords the few hundred extra
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (Boostfed.com)

yea im leaning more towards the gt40/67 it was my first gut feeling its just that anybody i talked to about this turbo had it on a b series that revs alot higher(10,500) then i rev my h series(8,500) and being this is a street car i dont want to lag the **** out of the motor

p.s the 40r is more then i really want to spend rite now also to boostfed for the help
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (h22 civic)

how would this turbo spool compared to lets say a gt35
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

UH no. For what I sell them for it is only about $100 difference, Keep in mind both of these turbos he asked about are the NON BB versions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oops - ya i just misread that part. Ya, the price differnce is like nothing then. Thanks for the correction.

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Depending on what you decide, I have this turbo - Precision PT67 T04S 70AR housing. The turbine is a tangential T4 68AR housing with a T04 69 trim wheel.

No one seams to be able to give good info on the exhaust setup on this turbo so if i don't sell it I am going to use it. From my research this wheel fits in between the stage 3 or 5 t3 wheel and the P-trim. I have no idea if that is right but thats what I may have figured out on my own lol. If interested let me know.
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how much is a journal bearing GT4067?

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Old 03-15-2006, 05:22 PM
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I belive they are around $1,100...of course depending on who you get one from. I wish the people that sell them on here had a list of prices.
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given the performance and power that you can get out of a $950 T4/67 with a P trim, Id have to ask if the additional $150 would see any real world difference.
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (AutoLab)

i just bought a pt6776 for 1375$ thaught it was a good deal
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (AutoLab)

i put that into thought also
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (AutoLab)

a PT6780-GTQ Trim .68AR had 27psi @ 5500rpm...ona H22a Stock Bore, Stock Head.

Made 600+...bad **** ona H22a.
Old 03-15-2006, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (h22 civic)

i am looking to run 35psi with this turbo i should make at least 600whp in my teg. this is my first turbo buil dso i dont know what to expect, but what i do know is i put 10gs in the motor with turbo & manifold so it better run like a beast
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Default Re: gt40/67 or pt67 (AutoLab)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoLab &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">given the performance and power that you can get out of a $950 T4/67 with a P trim, Id have to ask if the additional $150 would see any real world difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry but the PT67 are not that cheap anymore. That is actually less than Dealer cost and MOST Distributors sell these at the dealer cost level.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 80884 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I belive they are around $1,100...of course depending on who you get one from. I wish the people that sell them on here had a list of prices. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well Precision as well as most companies have MAP(minimum advertised pricing) rules WHICH for Precision is no lower than 10% below Retail cost. Most of the Internet companies sell the products WELL BELOW MAP even SO you will never(or not supposed to) them advertised lower than 10% below Retail. You can sell for whatever you want as long as you are not breaking the MAP rules. Any of you can go on any website like Circuit City or any other electronics websites and they will show you the Sale Price ONLY if you place it in your shopping cart, that is how they get around MAP rules too.

Either way you look at it these turbos are prices very fairly and if you are getting them below retail them feel lucky.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL IMPORT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just bought a pt6776 for 1375$ thaught it was a good deal</TD></TR></TABLE>I just bought a PT 6776 SP BB $950new. I couldnt pass it up
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry but the PT67 are not that cheap anymore. That is actually less than Dealer cost and MOST Distributors sell these at the dealer cost level.
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http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html

That is the turbo I was referring to in my original post. Granted it doesnt have Precision stamped on the cover, which I could care less about, either way its Garrett parts.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoLab &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html

That is the turbo I was referring to in my original post. Granted it doesnt have Precision stamped on the cover, which I could care less about, either way its Garrett parts.

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Yeah that is also not $950, very close. I was only referring to Precision who has a MAP pricing rule, I am sure Garrett does too, Phoenix/Cheapturbo is gonna do what is right also and sell them at the correct pricing structure set by Garrett as well.

People due to fail to realize that Precision=Garrett, Precision uses Garrett wheels and CHRA adn some times housing DEPENDING on what particular turbo, they do however cast there own compressor adn turbine housings and also backplates and assemble the Garrett parts to make a Precision turbo. Either way you can't go wrong

Now to get back on topic GT4067 RULES!
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Terry, thanks for explaining that. Now I know why no one lists their prices

Anyone want a PT6769? I heard prices went up, so the value of mine went up as well
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ok so i got to make my desicion!!!!now it is beetween the gt4067/T4 with a small hot .ar ,,,,the gt4088/t4 with a small hot.ar,,,,,the pt67/t4 with a small hot ar and even the pt67/T3 H.O WITH A MEDIUM .82 ar,,, now keep in mind this is on a built h22 i had a rinky dink gt35e61/t3 with a .60 cold and .63 hot 3" inlet 2.5 exhaust ,2" feed, and the car made 525 at 20 psi from 3500 to 8500 and felt very good but also felt like it was running out of breath as i was turning the boost up now i figured if i uped the intake to .70 and the hot side to a medium .82 with a 2.5 feed it would get rid of the our of breath feeling but as i was looking around i was put in the direction of a t4 frame with a smaller hot .ar and this is where this post came from if ya understand anything im saying
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 80884 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depending on what you decide, I have this turbo - Precision PT67 T04S 70AR housing. The turbine is a tangential T4 68AR housing with a T04 69 trim wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>



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