Notices

gt35r survey

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-03-2007, 11:28 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
TypeSLO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default gt35r survey

i just got my car tuned today and i wanted to see what the average output is among the rest of you with a gt35r setup. i know each setup is different but the object is to determine what is the "norm". and if you can, post up what you made at 20psi on race gas. thanks.
Old 03-04-2007, 08:56 AM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
boosted k20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: new york, n.y., u.s.
Posts: 2,708
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: gt35r survey (TypeSLO)

on my GT35R T4 .63/.70 i made 366whp on 10psi. i gotta turn up the boost in a week or two
Old 03-04-2007, 11:24 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
92HB_HB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: I am Paypal Verified
Posts: 2,866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (boosted k20)

i'm scared of mine.. I"ve yet to get 5 psi before backing off on the throttle..
Old 03-04-2007, 11:31 AM
  #4  
Man U FTW
 
Schister66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 11,973
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (92HB_HB)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92HB_HB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm scared of mine.. I"ve yet to get 5 psi before backing off on the throttle..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why?? You shouldn't have wasted your money on a GT35R if you aren't going to use it. You aren't even getting your money's worth yet....
Old 03-04-2007, 11:39 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
BoostedEG6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mechanicsville VA
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (Schister66)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why?? You shouldn't have wasted your money on a GT35R if you aren't going to use it. You aren't even getting your money's worth yet....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am pretty sure that was a joke
Old 03-04-2007, 11:56 AM
  #6  
Man U FTW
 
Schister66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 11,973
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (BoostedEG6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am pretty sure that was a joke </TD></TR></TABLE>

lets hope....
Old 03-04-2007, 11:58 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
BoostedEG6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mechanicsville VA
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (Schister66)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lets hope....</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahaha well this is HT so there is really no telling
Old 03-04-2007, 12:58 PM
  #8  
Man U FTW
 
Schister66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 11,973
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (BoostedEG6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hahaha well this is HT so there is really no telling </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah no kidding....everyone has a GT35R...i need one too....even at 5psi where its nowhere near efficiency....HT Bandwagons FTW
Old 03-04-2007, 01:23 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
InDub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Phoenix, Az, USA
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (Schister66)

I have 2...

I made 538hp and 460tq on the .82/.70 at 27-28psi
I made 472hp and 440tq on the .63/.60 at 24psi

fully built 84mm

Thinking of selling both and my full-race t3 topmount to go bigger (4088r or 4294r)
Old 03-04-2007, 01:35 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
92HB_HB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: I am Paypal Verified
Posts: 2,866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (InDub)

yeah.. I was just joking.
Old 03-04-2007, 08:48 PM
  #11  
Thread Starter
 
TypeSLO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (92HB_HB)

here is my dyno.




it's just about 21-22psi. i have a metric boost gauge so i think that's what it's at. this is on C16. not sure how much timing the tuner added. it's also a 84.5mm vtec motor. what do you guys think?

btw, it was my first time dealing with mtber, john vega, and he was pretty cool. i had no problems and i would recommend him for any tuning needs.
Old 03-04-2007, 08:51 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
s2kdre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Skmotoring.com
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (TypeSLO)

need to turn it up a little
Old 03-04-2007, 09:04 PM
  #13  
Thread Starter
 
TypeSLO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (s2kdre)

unfortunately, i only had a 10psi spring so that was the limit with the profec b. we tried to push it a little more but kept spiking.
Old 03-05-2007, 03:34 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
boosted k20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: new york, n.y., u.s.
Posts: 2,708
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: gt35r survey (TypeSLO)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeSLO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is my dyno.




it's just about 21-22psi. i have a metric boost gauge so i think that's what it's at. this is on C16. not sure how much timing the tuner added. it's also a 84.5mm vtec motor. what do you guys think?

btw, it was my first time dealing with mtber, john vega, and he was pretty cool. i had no problems and i would recommend him for any tuning needs. </TD></TR></TABLE>


that thing is making power really early but for the boost that its seeing, u should be making more power. whats the spec's on your 35R. i would have tuned on pump gas for that power
Old 03-05-2007, 04:08 AM
  #15  
 
Synapse Motorsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: gt35r survey (boosted k20)

Seems to be pretty low at 20 psi, tq drops off really early. What hot side were you guys using, what cams, etc. Here is an 84mm gsr @ 26psi with a .82 housing

Old 03-05-2007, 06:08 AM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Teglove2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Cleveland, Oh, USA
Posts: 2,134
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Those numbers up top seem kinda low except for synapses' graph. I made 468whp with a blowzilla .63ar on pump gas and the 35r is more efficient. That was on 18.5psi on a gsr head that i ported on my dorm room at wyotech with a dremel and stock gsr cams/tb.
Old 03-05-2007, 08:48 AM
  #17  
Man U FTW
 
Schister66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 11,973
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

barely breaking 400whp on a 35R at 20psi....that's on par for a Gt30R, but not a 35R from what i've seen....
Old 03-05-2007, 01:18 PM
  #18  
Thread Starter
 
TypeSLO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Schister66)

it's a gt3582rle. e cover. the numbers up top may be lower since i'm using a tubular log style "shorty" manifold. might also explain why the power comes on a little sooner too. the vtec engages at 4400. the motor seems to like it that low. smoothed out the powerband a lot by being that low. the power doesn't come on as fast or abruptly. i haven't a clue how to tune the car so i don't know what the timing looks like. the air/fuel ratio is at around 11.7-12.1. maybe need more timing?
Old 03-05-2007, 01:29 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
93supercoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dont Steal My Car, Ct, USA
Posts: 2,852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (TypeSLO)

eveb with the worst cast mani, i still think those numbers are low.
Old 03-05-2007, 01:55 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
JDogg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 5,072
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: (93supercoupe)

thats pretty fn horrible... look how rough the graph is even with smoothing on 5..

just to compare, my buddys 84mm b16 with a gt3071r made 466hp/370tq at 20lbs.

id expect 450-500 depending on what cams you have and if there is anything done to the head
Old 03-05-2007, 02:52 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
TypeR_Turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Calgary, ALberta, Canada
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (JDogg)

Fully Built LS/VTEC, 84mm bore, 9.0:1 Comp.
GT35R, 84 Trim, 0.82 A/R

455whp @ 14psi 92 Octane Pump Gas
615whp @ 21psi C16 Race Gas

Old 03-05-2007, 03:13 PM
  #22  
iTrader: (2)
 
mtber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 48,169
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (JDogg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats pretty fn horrible... look how rough the graph is even with smoothing on 5..

just to compare, my buddys 84mm b16 with a gt3071r made 466hp/370tq at 20lbs.

id expect 450-500 depending on what cams you have and if there is anything done to the head</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. The setup was only making 275whp off the wastegate at 9-10 psi.
On 1 bar the setup was only making 343whp & 256wht.

The setup was tuned on hondata s200. I would have expected far better numbers & a slightly smoother reading from such a setup.

I could not pinpoint the problem on the dyno.
I would suggest a leakdown/compression test along with an inspection of the turbo/charge piping etc.


A/f ratios were 11.5-12.0:1 and ignition timing was where it needed to be
Old 03-05-2007, 03:43 PM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
alpha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (TypeSLO)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe need more timing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No. I would do like John Vega said. Compression and leak down test it. What cams do you have? Do you have cam gears?
Old 03-05-2007, 03:44 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
93supercoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dont Steal My Car, Ct, USA
Posts: 2,852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (alpha)

there is something going on here.
Old 03-05-2007, 04:16 PM
  #25  
iTrader: (2)
 
mtber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 48,169
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (alpha)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No. I would do like John Vega said. Compression and leak down test it. What cams do you have? Do you have cam gears?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I recall, the vehicle had camgears which I left zeroed out.
The cams are supposedly b16 cams.



Quick Reply: gt35r survey



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:26 AM.