Notices

Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-13-2004, 07:51 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
StolenTeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe?

So i saw a few people here used some sort of grill instead of an filter for the turbo. So i decided to do the same, but im not too sure if it safe to do so... it give me a lot of room in the engine bay and i like that. can the turbo be damaged my dust or whatever, water...???
Old 07-13-2004, 07:54 PM
  #2  
Banned
 
Irishweird00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hypocrisy Capital of the World, New York
Posts: 3,983
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (StolenTeg)

get some window screen, the thick kind... and get a clamp and you should be alright. I doubt anything small enough to get in the screen will hurt the turbo.
Old 07-13-2004, 08:32 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
wisjdmhonda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pot Hole City, MN, USA
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (Irishweird00)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Irishweird00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get some window screen, the thick kind... and get a clamp and you should be alright. I doubt anything small enough to get in the screen will hurt the turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did exactly the same thing. It's like $3 for a whole roll. I've had no problems also.
Old 07-13-2004, 08:36 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18C1CYA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ny,NY
Posts: 3,751
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (StolenTeg)

just make shure its not the other screen ( non metal ) it will melt, i run a screen no probs
Old 07-13-2004, 08:48 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
StolenTeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (B18C1CYA)

After i put the screen on or whatever it called, and i drive once i hit boost a little bit. It make a loud sound of sucking in air which with the pipe and air filter never made. is this normal?
Old 07-13-2004, 09:30 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
B18C1CYA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ny,NY
Posts: 3,751
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (StolenTeg)

yup its just louder because its open and more air is being pulled in,
Old 07-13-2004, 10:01 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
wisjdmhonda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pot Hole City, MN, USA
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (B18C1CYA)

I love that sound
Old 07-13-2004, 10:53 PM
  #8  
 
Alchemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles/San Francisco, CA, USA
Posts: 3,824
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (wisjdmhonda)

It would probably be better to run a filter if you can fit it.
Old 07-13-2004, 11:31 PM
  #9  
 
honda9369's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: carlisle, pa
Posts: 2,448
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (Alchemist)

Old 07-20-2004, 07:24 AM
  #10  
Member
 
adseguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN, U.S.A
Posts: 2,992
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (honda9369)

So far it seems like 2 people are running this kind of mesh filter. I don't know if i can trust this yet. Opinions anyone? It's true that something small enough to go through the mesh filter won't damage the turbo, but over time I think it will. Would you want dust and other things going into your intake and sticking to your intake valves? Or depostiting carbon on the cylinder walls over time? I might be totally wrong but if no one can prove me wrong I'm pretty sure I'm right otherwise what would be the use of an airfilter ??
Old 07-20-2004, 07:27 AM
  #11  
DaX
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DaX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,114
Received 662 Likes on 524 Posts
Default

I run a screen because I can't get a normal filter in place. No problems so far. I don't drive down dirt roads or anything either though.
Old 07-20-2004, 07:35 AM
  #12  
Member
 
Honda Hick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: South, NJ
Posts: 2,515
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (StolenTeg)

Would you put a piece of screen over your throttle body on your NA car?
Old 07-20-2004, 07:36 AM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
PM-Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Reading, PA, usa
Posts: 12,978
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (Honda Hick)

i have used screeen forever now and no probs.
Old 07-20-2004, 07:46 AM
  #14  
 
Smooth-GSR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Ont., Canada
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (Honda Hick)

I agree, I run with a filter, its good peace of mind. If you have the room to run a short pipe with a filter at the end, I would do that. Running for a screen is asking for trouble I think, better safe than sorry.
Old 07-20-2004, 08:21 AM
  #15  
 
slamedturtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: TX, U.S.
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (Smooth-GSR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smooth-GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, I run with a filter, its good peace of mind. If you have the room to run a short pipe with a filter at the end, I would do that. Running for a screen is asking for trouble I think, better safe than sorry.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah i agree with all that agree with this Plus **** always happens. If not now then one day.
Old 07-20-2004, 08:30 AM
  #16  
 
mildly.interesting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: in the woods, NC, USA
Posts: 2,657
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (itr206)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have used screeen forever now and no probs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

me too, and I push 20 lbs daily...I love that sound, and the filter just kills it...
Old 07-20-2004, 08:31 AM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
PM-Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Reading, PA, usa
Posts: 12,978
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe? (mildly interesting)

yep
Old 07-20-2004, 08:34 AM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
USDM 4G VTEC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: OH
Posts: 4,834
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i would never ever run a NA or turbo engine without a filter

all that dust and crap going into the engine is just asking for trouble

all that dust and particles acumulate inside the engine cylinders... when they acumulate they are going to act as a friction element, (sandpaper type) and can cause wear, scratches, and damage to the sensitive internals of the engine... prob causing to get the cylinder walls scratched, rings not seating properly, and contamination...
wich will lead to oil concumption, maybe compressinon lost, power decrease and expensive damage

stop being cheap people...... find a way to get a real filter!!!

but hey.... if u wanna do it... go ahead.. it s ur motor......
Like they said where i come from : *Better you than me*
Old 07-20-2004, 08:41 AM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Turbo E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Posts: 1,323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

filter for street.

screen on the track.

yes, ANY amount of dust no matter how small will reduce the life of your turbo/motor
Old 07-20-2004, 08:47 AM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jockobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: DFW, TX, Japan
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Turbo E 604)

the screen makes my turbo spool slow...but then again i got a 2 inch inlet. it also gets the compressor really dirty because its sucking in exhaulst from the wastegate dump.
Old 07-20-2004, 09:11 AM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
USDM 4G VTEC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: OH
Posts: 4,834
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (Jockobo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jockobo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the screen makes my turbo spool slow...but then again i got a 2 inch inlet. it also gets the compressor really dirty because its sucking in exhaulst from the wastegate dump. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i beleive is spools slow due to nasty intake air u gettting

the CO2, and **** being let out, really kills the performance of the engine...... so if u are breathing that nasty crap, i would realllyyyyyyy invest getting it routed somewhere else.......
Old 07-20-2004, 09:27 AM
  #22  
 
slipslap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: evans, ga, usa
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Man K&N makes a small filter and it's like $27 from Jegs. It's a 2.5" inlet and it's only 4inches long and like 3 inch diameter. Plenty small enough to go on a turbo or at th end of a pipe. Think if it like this. All that dust and sand crap, that does go by that screen cause all it is for is to stop bugs, is eating up your blades. When the war in Iraq was going on the Apache choppers found a valuable tool in prolonging the blade life. They put a heay duty tape on the leading edge. Cause the sand just acted like sandpaper and ate them up. Thats the same thing happenning to your turbo w/o a filter. The blades are just slowly getting smaller and smaller. Run a filter, quit being cheap.
Old 07-20-2004, 09:33 AM
  #23  
DaX
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DaX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,114
Received 662 Likes on 524 Posts
Default Re: (slipslap)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slipslap &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man K&N makes a small filter and it's like $27 from Jegs. It's a 2.5" inlet and it's only 4inches long and like 3 inch diameter. Plenty small enough to go on a turbo or at th end of a pipe. Think if it like this. All that dust and sand crap, that does go by that screen cause all it is for is to stop bugs, is eating up your blades. When the war in Iraq was going on the Apache choppers found a valuable tool in prolonging the blade life. They put a heay duty tape on the leading edge. Cause the sand just acted like sandpaper and ate them up. Thats the same thing happenning to your turbo w/o a filter. The blades are just slowly getting smaller and smaller. Run a filter, quit being cheap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what you're saying is...we should all put duct tape on the leading edge of our compressor blades! Score, I'm going to go do that right now...brb
Old 07-20-2004, 09:50 AM
  #24  
 
slipslap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: evans, ga, usa
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Now you know thats not what I meant!
Old 07-20-2004, 10:15 AM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
b16hybridsol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,550
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (slipslap)

what about the people that seriously don't have enough room. I'm not going to spend almost a grand on parts just to move my compressor housing around so that i can put a filter on


Quick Reply: Grill as Turbo filter??? Safe?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:57 PM.