Ricey McRicerton

Hey guys..got the E-manage with the TDO4h-15g sohc kit for the 92-95 ex. I installed it all correclty in my 97 dx hatchy, and am having some serious bogging issues around 4500 rpm. Anybody else running this and have a better basemap or can show me where all the jumpers are supossed to be inside of it?? I would even settle for some english instructions!! Somebody help please!

p0gi

http://www.mohdparts.com/emana....html

Ricey McRicerton

Thanks man!

VTC_CiViC

I just read something interesting.. I see that if you purchase an optional control harness, you can control the timing of the engine with the E-manage as well as larger injectors with 16rpm points (with the use of dataloging).... if this is true, doesn't this make the E-manage a viable alternative to tuning?

Any thoughts?

Ricey McRicerton

Hell..you can already tune the E-Manage..it has (4 or 5 cant remember) ***** to tune the air flow adjustment at certian RPM points and a couple other options (including VTEC settings).

guido-kp

the emanage is a nice stepping stone between an SAFC or derivative, and a full standalone. i like my emanage alot, its easy to tune, and with the harnesses and boost sensor, does all i need. that said, i do wish that it had a few auxiliary inputs for analog datalogging (read: 0-5V input for my Wideband). i have my wideband plumbed into the TPS sensor input since my maps arent scaled off the TPS anyway.

TurboJesse

You can't beat the greddy kits for the price IMO, my friend got his for 1395 brand new including e-manage

JDogg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hell..you can already tune the E-Manage..it has (4 or 5 cant remember) ***** to tune the air flow adjustment at certian RPM points and a couple other options (including VTEC settings). </TD></TR></TABLE>

i have acess to the cable and software to tune that thing if you have the optional harnesses

i2un

I've got an extra "injector harness" and an extra "ignition harness" if anyone needs it?

Ricey McRicerton

Which harness do I need???

EDIT: 12un let me know what you want for whichever one I need!

Ricey McRicerton

Bump..btw Jason..you are the man!! Im definately gunna take you up on your offer this weekend...when are you free??

Ricey McRicerton

to the top...somebody let me know which of these harnesses I need before I can run the software stuff!!

guido-kp

you can run the software without either harness. however you get greater tuneability with both of the harnesses, though. the ignition harness will allow you to change ignition timing +/-20* on the ignition map, and the injection harness lets you add extra duty cycles on top of your stock injector duty cycle. it also lets you datalog thej injectors. IMO without these harnesses, the emanage is nothing more than a really fancy SAFC. thing is with the greddy kit, isnt the supplied map password protected? i think that i read that somwhere? maybe not...

Sohc Driver

I was recently told that you have to run the missing link with the Emanage...is this true or false?

Khoi

p0gi

It has a built in boost cut , that you can set to stop voltage at 2.9 volts. If you are running the emanage with an fmu, I would recommend using a missing link because it will be impossible to tune if you are running larger injectors. If your not then you will be fine without it.

Sohc Driver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0gi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It has a built in boost cut , that you can set to stop voltage at 2.9 volts. If you are running the emanage with an fmu, I would recommend using a missing link because it will be impossible to tune if you are running larger injectors. If your not then you will be fine without it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well..i was told to run Emanage with the missing link..and no FMU......i asked him how come people who run the AFC hack don't use the missing link..and he told me the Emanage is different from the AFC hack in the sense that i have to run a missing link. Anybody?

Khoi

p0gi

you can setup the emanage to operate exactly the same as the hack. All the hack does is subtract voltage from the map, the emanage does the exact same thing. The advantage that the emanage has is that it can also pulse injectors longer, has a built in boost cut defense, which just basically stops voltage from the map sensor from going over the set value, and can control ignition timing. So you dont need the missing link if your not running an fmu

Ricey McRicerton

Allright, Ive been looking closer at the wiring instructions. I have wires to each of the injectors and have the power, ground, RPM and Airflow output/input signal. Do I have enough stuff hooked up to run the Support tool???


Modified by Ricey McRicerton at 2:44 AM 9/28/2003

guido-kp

yeah thats good, the manual doesnt say it, but the grey wire on the main harness is the throttle position wire. have no idea why the manual doesnt list it, either, but thats what it is.

Sohc Driver

oh yeah..just curious...can someone explain to me how come the AFC hack doesn't require the missing link? Technically wouldn't the Map Sensor still read boost and make the ECU throw a code? I know many people run the hack without the missing link...but how?

Khoi

p0gi

The map sensor does still read boost, which is why the hack works. The vafc subtracts 35-40 % of the voltage that the map is sending out. The ecu thinks your boosting when it sees above 2.90 volts. So if your at 7psi which is approximatly 4.4volts, at -35 on the vafc the ecu is only seeing 2.86 volts. So it wont throw a code.

Sohc Driver

and the Emanage is capable of subtracting the Map voltage?

p0gi

yes The emanage works the same way as the vafc, but it has additional functions that are above and beyond what the vafc can do

Sohc Driver

cool deal...thanks for your help!

Khoi

Sohc Driver

oh yeah..another question i had...Would running 310cc injectors be enough for my setup. My setup will be:

B18b stock bottom end running 7psi
td05 16g turbo
intercooled
Emanage