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Old 10-21-2009, 07:19 PM
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Default Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

** 507 on 93 at 20psi & 586 on C16 (Boost went up and down)

I have been gathering parts and working on this project for about a year now and I am finally ready to put all this together. Here is a list of everything I have now. My goals are for 650whp and low 10's at the track. This setup will be in a eg hatch with no interior.

Engine:
84mm Benson sleeved B16
Pauter Rods
Cp 9:1 Pistons
B16 head
Skunk2 pro springs, retainers, and tuner1 cams
Ferrea valves
Victor X mani w/ Omni 70mm TB
Omni 5bar map
Oem new crank pulley

Transmission:
Gsr, stock gears and FD
Mfactory lsd
Comp twin
Stock axles

Turbo Setup:
.70a/r t3 s362
Neukin topmount w/ 4" dp
44mm Tial wastegate
Tial BOV
600hp precision IC
2.5" hotside ic piping
3" Coldside piping

Fuel System/Ignition/Ecu:
ID1000cc
Twin Bosch 044
AEM rail
Fuel Lab FPR
-8an feed, -6an return
Stock w/ external msd coil
Hondata s300 w/ boost by gear


Please give me some opinions on my setup or if I need to change anything to reach my goals. Thanks.

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Old 10-21-2009, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

Very similar to a build i'm working on as well. GL.

I would check with your tuner on the single Walbro....
I'm not sure thats gonna give you the FP you need for 30psi to make your 650.

Everything else looks solid as long as you load those axles before you launch
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Originally Posted by kte324
I have been gathering parts and working on this project for about a year now and I am finally ready to put all this together. Here is a list of everything I have now. My goals are for 650whp and low 10's at the track. This setup will be in a eg hatch with no interior.

Engine:
84mm Benson sleeved B16
Pauter Rods
Cp 9:1 Pistons
B16 head
Skunk2 springs, retainers, and tuner1 cams
Ferrea valves
Victor X mani w/ stock 62mm tb (should I upgrade 70mm?)
thinking about ati or fluidampr

Transmission:
Gsr, stock gears and FD
Mfactory lsd
Comp twin
Stock axles for now.

Turbo Setup:
.70a/r t3 s362
Neukin topmount w/ 4" dp
44mm wastegate
600hp precision IC
2.5 ic piping(might upgrade to 3" cold if I upgrade tb)

Fuel System/Ignition/Ecu:
Rc 1000cc
Walbro 255 intank
Bosch 044 inline
AEM rail & regulator
-8an feed, stock return
Stock w/ external msd coil
Hondata s300 w/ boost by gear
Tuner = Mase

Please give me some opinions on my setup or if I need to change anything to reach my goals. Thanks.
awesome set-up dont worry about the 62mm tb turbo cars push the air in dont suck-it in... any way the only thing i will add up will be in line fuel pump with a Y to that -8an feed. To make sure you have more than pleanty of fuel for the hungry 1000cc injectors an reach the power goals

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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

you have the same exact setup as i do except i have 83mm 10.1cr pistons.

i made 670hp.

http://kcsr.org/showthread.php?t=34345
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Sounds like a really nice set up!

You my consider doing 83mm pistons just as a precaution.
I would say, Axles are definitely gonna have to be upgraded.
Especially if you are going to use slicks or drags rads. Also, Injector Dynamics injectors are the $h!t. RC's aren't bad, I'm just saying. I'm assuming you're going to use the big AEM 1:1 regulator.
I like the ATI dampers. They are really nice. I wouldn't skimp on the tb.
Best of luck!
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Originally Posted by whiskaz
you have the same exact setup as i do except i have 83mm 10.1cr pistons.

i made 670hp.

http://kcsr.org/showthread.php?t=34345
Wow that's exactly the power I am looking for. How many psi was that?

For the other posts: The engine is already built so I can't change the 84mm and I am using a Bosch 044 inline and Walbro intank as stated above.
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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

What gas will you be using?? With a 1000ccs race gas Vp Q16 will get your power goals.
Anything else you might not hit it.

I would ditch the msd external coil and going with tony t1's m&w ignition setup. With that much hp, you need some reliable ignition on the top end.

Definately some upgraded axles would not hurt. Going 10's with some stock axles will be a challenge.

Other than that, I'm sure Mase will do his magic and you should hit your goals.
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Great set up. You will make 600 no problem.

i would pick up a 70mm throttle body. I just picked up a Omni Power 70mm TB for 99 shipped..check out the market place under FI.
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Originally Posted by DA TeG 90
Great set up. You will make 600 no problem.

i would pick up a 70mm throttle body. I just picked up a Omni Power 70mm TB for 99 shipped..check out the market place under FI.
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Originally Posted by kte324
Wow that's exactly the power I am looking for. How many psi was that?

For the other posts: The engine is already built so I can't change the 84mm and I am using a Bosch 044 inline and Walbro intank as stated above.
logs showed 29.2lbs
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Originally Posted by ek_b20_vtec
What gas will you be using?? With a 1000ccs race gas Vp Q16 will get your power goals.
Anything else you might not hit it.

I would ditch the msd external coil and going with tony t1's m&w ignition setup. With that much hp, you need some reliable ignition on the top end.

Definately some upgraded axles would not hurt. Going 10's with some stock axles will be a challenge.

Other than that, I'm sure Mase will do his magic and you should hit your goals.
It will be one C16, and the axles will be upgraded when I hit the track. DSS 3.9

Originally Posted by DA TeG 90
Great set up. You will make 600 no problem.

i would pick up a 70mm throttle body. I just picked up a Omni Power 70mm TB for 99 shipped..check out the market place under FI.
Yeah, I saw it on there, thats what gave me the idea. I think I might get one.
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You will be able to get into the mid 9's with 650whp I think.
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Hopefully my fuel setup will make it.
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your gonna need a good as tune
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I think your setup looks good, but i would definitely go with the ID1000's rather than the RC's. You have all you need for fuel pumps, and if needed with the id1000's you can just turn up the pressure and have bigger injectors Either way, I think you'll hit your goal
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Originally Posted by sweetfwdthunder
I think your setup looks good, but i would definitely go with the ID1000's rather than the RC's. You have all you need for fuel pumps, and if needed with the id1000's you can just turn up the pressure and have bigger injectors Either way, I think you'll hit your goal
Depends on how the money looks I might get some ID1000s.
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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

ive got a similar setup, but im using the Full blown dual walbro setup.

I have 1000 RC's right now, im wondering if I should go with 12/1600s and an injector driver. OR should I pick up the ID1000's as well?
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I would go with the IDs. They are the bomb!.... I mean, I like them a lot. lol
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Im just wondering if I should step up to the ID2000's or stick with the 1000
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i would def go with a 70mm tb and some id injectors(1000's)! looks like a good build, hope everything turns out good!
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Is there anything else I should do to my ignition?
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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

Very nice setup!

It's very close to what i'm doing except I have a H22. I have the same power goals.

Right now I have a single Bosch 044 inline w/ id1000's... From what you are saying I would need another fuel pump as well?

What should I go with? another Bosch 044 inline?
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Very nice setup!

It's very close to what i'm doing except I have a H22. I have the same power goals.

Right now I have a single Bosch 044 inline w/ id1000's... From what you are saying I would need another fuel pump as well?

What should I go with? another Bosch 044 inline?
I am not sure, you are using id1000's which are really good injectors. You would have to ask someone with id1000's. If it were me I would add another fuel pump for reassurance.
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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

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Is there anything else I should do to my ignition?
if you have the funds then get your self an M&W pro-10 if funds are low you can always run something liek a mallory or summit ignition box with a msd coil. they have been proven to work better than stock but not as good as a M&W
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Default Re: Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please

im running the dual walbro Full blown setup and was talking to tony1 about the ID1000's for my goal of 650 range and he said they will be perfect... he said they would make that no problem.


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