Goal 650whp. Will my setup work? Input Please
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I have been gathering parts and working on this project for about a year now and I am finally ready to put all this together. Here is a list of everything I have now. My goals are for 650whp and low 10's at the track. This setup will be in a eg hatch with no interior.
Engine:
84mm Benson sleeved B16
Pauter Rods
Cp 9:1 Pistons
B16 head
Skunk2 pro springs, retainers, and tuner1 cams
Ferrea valves
Victor X mani w/ Omni 70mm TB
Omni 5bar map
Oem new crank pulley
Transmission:
Gsr, stock gears and FD
Mfactory lsd
Comp twin
Stock axles
Turbo Setup:
.70a/r t3 s362
Neukin topmount w/ 4" dp
44mm Tial wastegate
Tial BOV
600hp precision IC
2.5" hotside ic piping
3" Coldside piping
Fuel System/Ignition/Ecu:
ID1000cc
Twin Bosch 044
AEM rail
Fuel Lab FPR
-8an feed, -6an return
Stock w/ external msd coil
Hondata s300 w/ boost by gear
Please give me some opinions on my setup or if I need to change anything to reach my goals. Thanks.
I have been gathering parts and working on this project for about a year now and I am finally ready to put all this together. Here is a list of everything I have now. My goals are for 650whp and low 10's at the track. This setup will be in a eg hatch with no interior.
Engine:
84mm Benson sleeved B16
Pauter Rods
Cp 9:1 Pistons
B16 head
Skunk2 pro springs, retainers, and tuner1 cams
Ferrea valves
Victor X mani w/ Omni 70mm TB
Omni 5bar map
Oem new crank pulley
Transmission:
Gsr, stock gears and FD
Mfactory lsd
Comp twin
Stock axles
Turbo Setup:
.70a/r t3 s362
Neukin topmount w/ 4" dp
44mm Tial wastegate
Tial BOV
600hp precision IC
2.5" hotside ic piping
3" Coldside piping
Fuel System/Ignition/Ecu:
ID1000cc
Twin Bosch 044
AEM rail
Fuel Lab FPR
-8an feed, -6an return
Stock w/ external msd coil
Hondata s300 w/ boost by gear
Please give me some opinions on my setup or if I need to change anything to reach my goals. Thanks.
Last edited by kte324; Jan 29, 2013 at 07:07 PM.
Very similar to a build i'm working on as well. GL.
I would check with your tuner on the single Walbro....
I'm not sure thats gonna give you the FP you need for 30psi to make your 650.
Everything else looks solid as long as you load those axles before you launch
I would check with your tuner on the single Walbro....
I'm not sure thats gonna give you the FP you need for 30psi to make your 650.
Everything else looks solid as long as you load those axles before you launch
I have been gathering parts and working on this project for about a year now and I am finally ready to put all this together. Here is a list of everything I have now. My goals are for 650whp and low 10's at the track. This setup will be in a eg hatch with no interior.
Engine:
84mm Benson sleeved B16
Pauter Rods
Cp 9:1 Pistons
B16 head
Skunk2 springs, retainers, and tuner1 cams
Ferrea valves
Victor X mani w/ stock 62mm tb (should I upgrade 70mm?)
thinking about ati or fluidampr
Transmission:
Gsr, stock gears and FD
Mfactory lsd
Comp twin
Stock axles for now.
Turbo Setup:
.70a/r t3 s362
Neukin topmount w/ 4" dp
44mm wastegate
600hp precision IC
2.5 ic piping(might upgrade to 3" cold if I upgrade tb)
Fuel System/Ignition/Ecu:
Rc 1000cc
Walbro 255 intank
Bosch 044 inline
AEM rail & regulator
-8an feed, stock return
Stock w/ external msd coil
Hondata s300 w/ boost by gear
Tuner = Mase
Please give me some opinions on my setup or if I need to change anything to reach my goals. Thanks.
Engine:
84mm Benson sleeved B16
Pauter Rods
Cp 9:1 Pistons
B16 head
Skunk2 springs, retainers, and tuner1 cams
Ferrea valves
Victor X mani w/ stock 62mm tb (should I upgrade 70mm?)
thinking about ati or fluidampr
Transmission:
Gsr, stock gears and FD
Mfactory lsd
Comp twin
Stock axles for now.
Turbo Setup:
.70a/r t3 s362
Neukin topmount w/ 4" dp
44mm wastegate
600hp precision IC
2.5 ic piping(might upgrade to 3" cold if I upgrade tb)
Fuel System/Ignition/Ecu:
Rc 1000cc
Walbro 255 intank
Bosch 044 inline
AEM rail & regulator
-8an feed, stock return
Stock w/ external msd coil
Hondata s300 w/ boost by gear
Tuner = Mase
Please give me some opinions on my setup or if I need to change anything to reach my goals. Thanks.
Last edited by sabrosa489; Oct 21, 2009 at 08:21 PM. Reason: more info
you have the same exact setup as i do except i have 83mm 10.1cr pistons.
i made 670hp.
http://kcsr.org/showthread.php?t=34345
i made 670hp.
http://kcsr.org/showthread.php?t=34345
Sounds like a really nice set up! 
You my consider doing 83mm pistons just as a precaution.
I would say, Axles are definitely gonna have to be upgraded.
Especially if you are going to use slicks or drags rads. Also, Injector Dynamics injectors are the $h!t. RC's aren't bad, I'm just saying. I'm assuming you're going to use the big AEM 1:1 regulator.
I like the ATI dampers. They are really nice. I wouldn't skimp on the tb.
Best of luck!

You my consider doing 83mm pistons just as a precaution.
I would say, Axles are definitely gonna have to be upgraded.
Especially if you are going to use slicks or drags rads. Also, Injector Dynamics injectors are the $h!t. RC's aren't bad, I'm just saying. I'm assuming you're going to use the big AEM 1:1 regulator.
I like the ATI dampers. They are really nice. I wouldn't skimp on the tb.
Best of luck!
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you have the same exact setup as i do except i have 83mm 10.1cr pistons.
i made 670hp.
http://kcsr.org/showthread.php?t=34345
i made 670hp.
http://kcsr.org/showthread.php?t=34345
For the other posts: The engine is already built so I can't change the 84mm and I am using a Bosch 044 inline and Walbro intank as stated above.
What gas will you be using?? With a 1000ccs race gas Vp Q16 will get your power goals.
Anything else you might not hit it.
I would ditch the msd external coil and going with tony t1's m&w ignition setup. With that much hp, you need some reliable ignition on the top end.
Definately some upgraded axles would not hurt. Going 10's with some stock axles will be a challenge.
Other than that, I'm sure Mase will do his magic and you should hit your goals.
Anything else you might not hit it.
I would ditch the msd external coil and going with tony t1's m&w ignition setup. With that much hp, you need some reliable ignition on the top end.
Definately some upgraded axles would not hurt. Going 10's with some stock axles will be a challenge.
Other than that, I'm sure Mase will do his magic and you should hit your goals.
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Great set up. You will make 600 no problem.
i would pick up a 70mm throttle body. I just picked up a Omni Power 70mm TB for 99 shipped..check out the market place under FI.
i would pick up a 70mm throttle body. I just picked up a Omni Power 70mm TB for 99 shipped..check out the market place under FI.
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What gas will you be using?? With a 1000ccs race gas Vp Q16 will get your power goals.
Anything else you might not hit it.
I would ditch the msd external coil and going with tony t1's m&w ignition setup. With that much hp, you need some reliable ignition on the top end.
Definately some upgraded axles would not hurt. Going 10's with some stock axles will be a challenge.
Other than that, I'm sure Mase will do his magic and you should hit your goals.
Anything else you might not hit it.
I would ditch the msd external coil and going with tony t1's m&w ignition setup. With that much hp, you need some reliable ignition on the top end.
Definately some upgraded axles would not hurt. Going 10's with some stock axles will be a challenge.
Other than that, I'm sure Mase will do his magic and you should hit your goals.
Yeah, I saw it on there, thats what gave me the idea. I think I might get one.
I think your setup looks good, but i would definitely go with the ID1000's rather than the RC's. You have all you need for fuel pumps, and if needed with the id1000's you can just turn up the pressure and have bigger injectors
Either way, I think you'll hit your goal
Either way, I think you'll hit your goal
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I think your setup looks good, but i would definitely go with the ID1000's rather than the RC's. You have all you need for fuel pumps, and if needed with the id1000's you can just turn up the pressure and have bigger injectors
Either way, I think you'll hit your goal
Either way, I think you'll hit your goal
ive got a similar setup, but im using the Full blown dual walbro setup.
I have 1000 RC's right now, im wondering if I should go with 12/1600s and an injector driver. OR should I pick up the ID1000's as well?
I have 1000 RC's right now, im wondering if I should go with 12/1600s and an injector driver. OR should I pick up the ID1000's as well?
Very nice setup!
It's very close to what i'm doing except I have a H22. I have the same power goals.
Right now I have a single Bosch 044 inline w/ id1000's... From what you are saying I would need another fuel pump as well?
What should I go with? another Bosch 044 inline?
It's very close to what i'm doing except I have a H22. I have the same power goals.
Right now I have a single Bosch 044 inline w/ id1000's... From what you are saying I would need another fuel pump as well?
What should I go with? another Bosch 044 inline?
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Very nice setup!
It's very close to what i'm doing except I have a H22. I have the same power goals.
Right now I have a single Bosch 044 inline w/ id1000's... From what you are saying I would need another fuel pump as well?
What should I go with? another Bosch 044 inline?
It's very close to what i'm doing except I have a H22. I have the same power goals.
Right now I have a single Bosch 044 inline w/ id1000's... From what you are saying I would need another fuel pump as well?
What should I go with? another Bosch 044 inline?
if you have the funds then get your self an M&W pro-10 if funds are low you can always run something liek a mallory or summit ignition box with a msd coil. they have been proven to work better than stock but not as good as a M&W
im running the dual walbro Full blown setup and was talking to tony1 about the ID1000's for my goal of 650 range and he said they will be perfect... he said they would make that no problem.


