Feed and Return lines?????? PLZ HELP
Ok I am sick of reading. There I said it. I want to know exactly what lines and fittings I need to deliver and drain oil from my turbo. I am running a t3/t4. I have read and searched and called and I still don't know what I need. I just want oil to my turbo!!! Plz help me!!! Grrrrr.
for the feed need a -3an or -4an with a oil restrictor and for the return line you need a -10an or 3/4" hose
everything you need http://atpturbo.com
everything you need http://atpturbo.com
Why not leave the thinking up to Stealthmode or Stan @ Fast-turbo.com? Their kits have always been complete and reasonably priced. Just tell them what turbo you are running and they can get you all the fittings you need.
Nobody can tell you exactly what you need because it's dependent on your particular turbo and manifold configuration.
All we can tell you are the basics:
Feed: use AN-3 line. A restrictor is not needed.
Return: use AN-10 line
That's it. You need to mount the turbo to see exactly what angles of fittings you need for the return. Feed/return "kits" are a joke and a waste of money. Just buy what you need. In general, people use either 1 straight fitting and 1 45* fitting or 2 45* fittings. If you need a 90* fitting you're doing something wrong.
Also, it depends on what your inlet/outlet looks like on your turbo. Since it's a T3/T4, odds are you have a 1/8" NPT threaded hole for the feed and just an open port for the return.
All we can tell you are the basics:
Feed: use AN-3 line. A restrictor is not needed.
Return: use AN-10 line
That's it. You need to mount the turbo to see exactly what angles of fittings you need for the return. Feed/return "kits" are a joke and a waste of money. Just buy what you need. In general, people use either 1 straight fitting and 1 45* fitting or 2 45* fittings. If you need a 90* fitting you're doing something wrong.
Also, it depends on what your inlet/outlet looks like on your turbo. Since it's a T3/T4, odds are you have a 1/8" NPT threaded hole for the feed and just an open port for the return.
Heck, I'll spell it out for you since I know the T3/T4 CHRA layout. Here's what to buy:
<U>FEED</U>
1. Tuner Toys oil take-off fitting -$21
http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/pro....html
2. 1/8" NPT -> AN-3 adapter (need 2) - $8 shipped for both http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116
3. 48" stainless/braided AN-3 line - $22 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWD1V
4. If you have problems with the line clearing the manifold, you'll need a 45* adapter. I won't go into that because I don't know what kind of manifold you're using.
Feedline total: ~$50 thanks to ebay.
<U>FEED</U>
1. Tuner Toys oil take-off fitting -$21
http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/pro....html
2. 1/8" NPT -> AN-3 adapter (need 2) - $8 shipped for both http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116
3. 48" stainless/braided AN-3 line - $22 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWD1V
4. If you have problems with the line clearing the manifold, you'll need a 45* adapter. I won't go into that because I don't know what kind of manifold you're using.
Feedline total: ~$50 thanks to ebay.
RETURN<U></U>
1. Oil return outlet flange - $16
http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/pro....html

2. 1/2" NPT -> AN-10 adapter - $8 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116
3. 1 foot of braided/stainless AN-10 line - roughly $10 from a fellow h-t memeber who has some lying around. I think I can scrounge some up for you if it comes to that.
4. AN-10 hose ends: You'll need either 2 45*s, or 1 straight and 1 45*. These are expensive and vary from $15 - $30 each. You can find them easily on h-t or ebay for $15. Most shops charge retail, which can be $25-40 each. Keep in mind, the 45* shown is a large radius bend. That might cause you problems (it did to me). You can buy very short radius bends from Summit, but you'll be paying full price. These are generally chosen depending on what you need once you've mocked up the turbo.
5. AN-10 fitting for your oil pan - $12 shipped (you can probably find them cheaper, but I'm getting tired of surfing ebay for you).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116
Return line total: ~$75.
Grand total: ~$125. Keep in mind most local shops hate small TIG jobs, so they'll probably rape (charge) you $40 to weld the fitting to your pan.
Modified by Legion at 5:45 PM 3/31/2008
1. Oil return outlet flange - $16
http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/pro....html

2. 1/2" NPT -> AN-10 adapter - $8 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116
3. 1 foot of braided/stainless AN-10 line - roughly $10 from a fellow h-t memeber who has some lying around. I think I can scrounge some up for you if it comes to that.
4. AN-10 hose ends: You'll need either 2 45*s, or 1 straight and 1 45*. These are expensive and vary from $15 - $30 each. You can find them easily on h-t or ebay for $15. Most shops charge retail, which can be $25-40 each. Keep in mind, the 45* shown is a large radius bend. That might cause you problems (it did to me). You can buy very short radius bends from Summit, but you'll be paying full price. These are generally chosen depending on what you need once you've mocked up the turbo.
5. AN-10 fitting for your oil pan - $12 shipped (you can probably find them cheaper, but I'm getting tired of surfing ebay for you).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116
Return line total: ~$75.
Grand total: ~$125. Keep in mind most local shops hate small TIG jobs, so they'll probably rape (charge) you $40 to weld the fitting to your pan.
Modified by Legion at 5:45 PM 3/31/2008
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Do you plan on running any fuel pressure or temp gauges? If so you could build a oil block with fittings and lines from Summit for like $40...I just made one and it works great.
Those clamps are just as strong or stronger than your coolant to radiator clamp, and the cooling system actually has pressure in it. Gravity fed fluid tends not to blow hoses off.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by almostboostedgsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used the stealthmode kit but didnt trust those wimppy hose clamps and bought an fittings. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I actually removed one of my AN fittings and reverted back to to a simple clamp/barb fitting recently because it freed up some extra distance for my return line to flex. The one weakness of AN fittings is that they are not great at making tight bends. You'd be surprised how un-flexible 4" of AN-10 hose is.
I actually removed one of my AN fittings and reverted back to to a simple clamp/barb fitting recently because it freed up some extra distance for my return line to flex. The one weakness of AN fittings is that they are not great at making tight bends. You'd be surprised how un-flexible 4" of AN-10 hose is.
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How much pressure is in your oil drain line.
Stealthmode FTMFW... and
for the free stickers.
How much pressure is in your oil drain line.Stealthmode FTMFW... and
for the free stickers.
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