bluepearlintegra

Alright im fixing to put a turbo on my 95 LS and im fairly new to the honda turbo scene and i was wondering which a/f guage is the best and most acurate? I know that the Autometer one is only good when your on the gas but i was wondering if there is a guage that is acurate even when your not on the gas hard?? Any suggestions will be useful. Thanks
Cody

eg6hatch

my friends has a b16a in a civic hatch, and has the autometer electronic a/f guage, and he loved his, up until he put a skunk2 ecu on it, now it wont work for soem reason. thats all i nkow about any a/f guages, he said it was good though all the time.

MiraiZ

autometer AF meter = complete waste of money...worst thing I ever bought and installed...now its just sitting in my tool shed collecting dust like it deserves

autoEXturbo

a wideband would be the best to install if you can afford it. If not, the greddy a/f is probably the most reliable non-wideband out there.

Elite Hatch

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Exactly what I was gonna say

ladysman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluepearlintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright im fixing to put a turbo on my 95 LS and im fairly new to the honda turbo scene and i was wondering which a/f guage is the best and most acurate? I know that the Autometer one is only good when your on the gas but i was wondering if there is a guage that is acurate even when your not on the gas hard?? Any suggestions will be useful. Thanks
Cody</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you really want a narrow A/F guage, and you plan on going turbo, just get the Apexi Turbo Timer with the A/F gauge built in. IMO.

Dee

The best "bang for the buck" wide band AF meter is the Techedge DIY meter followed by the semi-wide band Greddy meter. I have both and the Greddy's 3volt sensor makes turning part throttle really difficult.

HondaCutter

bump for a good subject

Mr. Softee

http://www.diy-wb.com
http://www.techedge.com

psi420

Any A/F Gauge with numbers, is better IMO.

94dxt

the Greddy one has it's own oxygen sensor right?

SikofFalln

Forget about the a/f amd get an EGT.

T3

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If you really want a narrow A/F guage, and you plan on going turbo, just get the Apexi Turbo Timer with the A/F gauge built in. IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Do the apexi turbo timer w/a.f work good?

Dee

The Apex Turbo timer AF meter relies on the signal from whatever O2 sensor you are using so it's only as good as the sensor. Stock 1volt sensors suck doo doo. Greddy 3volt sensors are awesome for tuning WOT but make me want to choke myself when trying to get accurate low throttle readings. A true 5 volt heated sensor is the only way to go. Motec, Horiba and FTK use the same FGK made wideband sensor. The circuitry(heater/signal output) is what sets them apart. here are a couple.

Greddy ($250 with 3volt sensor)
Techedge DIY is the cheapest 5 volt wide band. $250~$280 with L1H1 sensor )
FJO wide band ($800~900)
Integral (japanese) wide band ($1100)
FTK (japanese) wide band with boost or EGT ($1100)
Motec wide band (too much)
Horiba wide band (mortgage your house)



Modified by Dee at 9:43 PM 4/29/2003

MiraiZ

Dee...you suck! When are coming to Kanto?!?!? Dave is suppose to be back on the 6th! We are going to go on a quest for more power and check up on some tuning shops around here.

Dee

hahaha... I will be building my car this weekend and I should be getting my '97 FD soon. I'm waiting for the owner pay the old road tax on the FD

T3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Apex Turbo timer AF meter relies on the signal from whatever O2 sensor you are using so it's only as good as the sensor. Stock 1volt sensors suck doo doo. Greddy 3volt sensors are awesome for tuning WOT but make me want to choke myself when trying to get accurate low throttle readings. A true 5 volt heated sensor is the only way to go. Motec, Horiba and FTK use the same FGK made wideband sensor. The circuitry(heater/signal output) is what sets them apart. here are a couple.

Greddy ($250 with 3volt sensor)
Techedge DIY is the cheapest 5 volt wide band. (~$250 without L1H1 sensor)
FJO wide band ($800~900)
Integral (japanese) wide band ($1100)
FTK (japanese) wide band with boost or EGT ($1100)
Motec wide band (too much)
Horiba wide band (mortgage your house)
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Very good information
Is there something that can controll a bosch 5 wire wb?

Im looking at the greddy price ..Do you have it?If yes, would u recommend it?

Dee

Yes, I own a Greddy meter. It gives wacky part throttle readings but gives awesome WOT readings. The Techedge DIY is the best choice for street tuners on a budget. Techedge is working on a revision that will allow sensors other than the L1H1 to be used.

HondaCutter

where can you get the techedge gauge from? or the parts to make it?

Dee

http://www.techedge.com.au/veh...t.htm

1 $150 TE-WB (vers. 1.5) kit of parts $150.00
1 $70 TE-5301 LED Display kit (ver 1.1) $70.00
Total of above goods = $220.00 -- Total of insurance $9.00
Weight for posting = 550 grams -- Total of postage $19.00
Total of order in Australian dollars AU$248.00
Total of order in US dollars we'll charge for a PayPal transaction = US$153.76
Total of order in AU dollars including GST of $24.80 (if applic.) = AU$272.80


$153.76 is the shipped price to me here in Japan without an L1H1 sensor. I snagged a sensor from the boneyard yesterday for mere pennies





Modified by Dee at 9:39 PM 4/29/2003

HondaCutter

do you need to weld another o2 sensor bung for that?

and does anyone have any problems with this, I know this guy did...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=479875

MiraiZ

An F-what? what are you doing messing with a chick-car for? Ditch that 13b engine and get a 20b!! 3 rotors is where its at!!

SLIMJIMsi97

Someone try the Nordskog a/g gauge ?

T3

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1 $150 TE-WB (vers. 1.5) kit of parts $150.00
1 $70 TE-5301 LED Display kit (ver 1.1) $70.00
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Is it pretty simple to build the unit?
Its either this or the greddy.

boostdd

Man i saw a video of a AE86 with a single turbo 20b in it...dam that thing flew...