should i go ahead and do this to the SC for reliability purposes if i want to do 11-12psi intercooled by LHT?? i have to send in my blower right? anyone got the address to send it in to (if this is mod is necessary)? thanx

 

Id go ahead and talk to John @ LHT, and when you send in the manifold for the IC, he can handle the "endyn mod." The manifold and s-tube are being ported anyway for the IC I believe, which is a lot of Larrys modification. Its pointless to send it to larry when John will be doing much of the same work.

John also ran some tests with the Endyn mod as well I believe and found not much to be seen. The IC will serve your purpose MUCH better.

 

I have ran across posts saying that it's really not what it claims to be... Anyway no matter what is done to the sc, you cannot get around the physic(sp) when air is compressed it will generate heat.

 

yah i've heard that the Endyn mod wasn't really all that good also, but i have also heard that if you plan on going 11-12+psi on the SC, that it would "over-spin" (or something like that). i want to do 11-12psi and not harm the SC, i'll be taking care of the heat by using the intercooler and later on using a lil 30 dry shot to cool the temps even more. so i guess what i'm trying to say is that; would 11-12psi on the SC be safe considering how fast it would be spinning??

on the same subject....whats the highest psi ever on a JRSC??? anyone know?


Modified by 98civicguy at 5:06 PM 4/24/2003

 

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17psi... I doubt it lasted very long. The charger goes beyond efficiency range at 10 or 11psi... if you want more than that, it's more cost effective to just go turbo.

Don't take that as another "go turbo" post, I have a jrsc!

 

98 Civicguy:

The boost doesn't have alot to do with the rpms the blower is spinning. (Boost is air the motor can't use.)
On average 11 psi is on a B18C1 what we have found to the best efficiancy without causing problems to the blower, This is around 16500 -17000rpm's.
Now 11psi on a B20 Vtec is 20,000 plus and the blower takes more power to spin and the temps go through the roof.

Basically RPM's is what is important, the limit is about 17000 rpms , This is about 14psi on a B16A, 11psi on a GSR and about 8psi on a B20Vtec. We have done modifications to motors that has made power with less boost, ie. help the motor move more air.Less boost is less pressure on the discharge of the supercharger and less heated air.
Hope this helps.

 

dude.. go turbo....

the next guy that says "endyn" needs to be flogged.....

Please oh please no more endyn and larry threads... please oh please no...

 

CRVRX:

thanx man, that helped me out a lot! i'm going to be buying those 5-rib belts of yours when they come out + your intercooler and heat exchanger package and have 10-11 psi my GSR motor. you think my stock internals will be fine? thanx again, greg

 

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The next person that says that should be flogged... If someone asks if they should go turbo or SC, fine... otherwise, keep it to yourself please.

 

amen

 

dude totally go turbo.

 

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no really

 

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Being loyal to a certain method of forced induction is like being loyal to a certain brand of merchandise. I'd go with the one that makes the most power, which is turbocharging (and also happens to be the best bang for the buck...don't see that often, eh?).

 

i will not go turbo, please quit telling me to. i have made up my mind. thank you

 

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hahaha calm down I was just being a smart ***. but really I do love my turbo, because I can make those numbers without nitrous.

 

Another thing is you're saying you're doing it for reliability's sake. Why is it that people think that running a small supercharger at a boost level beyond spec is going to make it more reliable than a properly matched turbo setup?

Just wondering .... I don't care which way you go personally, so don't think I'm trying to talk you one way or the other.

 

but i will update...i am not going to get the fully built GSR. i'm still gonna get the GSR, but since the stock internals of the GSR will be able to withstand 10-11 psi of the JRSC, i'm gonna leave it be. but later, when i hook up a little 30 shot of dry N20, i will be getting the internals done then...and possibly a P&P.

 

I agree that there are uninformed people that think that 10psi on a SC is more "reliable" than 10psi on a turbo... like your engine really knows what is force-feeding it.

Personally, I, like many others, decided to choose the SC because this is about making my GSR into a fun daily driver. I want a flat torque curve. The SC will achieve that goal quite nicely.