I have a quick question that I was hoping someone could help me with. I know that EMS willinterface with my techedge and automap a fuel map by itself. What i dont know is how do i get the ignition map, does it need to be changed from the base map? Or do i hvae to enter each value individually, because if thats the case i will be totoaly lost. Thanks for any and all info.
Oh i have been on the ems forum quite a bit, but thought that i would get more help from you guys, who I know.

Thanks

Rob

 

UP please.

Rob

 

hey man you can get ignition values out of the demo version of hondata rom editor.

btw i found the J&S instructions i can mail them to you. really!

 

You could do, but why not buy a system that has the correct values in the first place 8-)

That is, if the values are correct.

 

No one on the EMS forums has a set-up like yours? that way all you have to do is upload their maps into your EMS and tunned the map from there. I was lucky Quaalude send me his calibration and it was a pretty damn good one so there wasn't much change plus I had help from another EMS user.


Modified by LJR-LUDE01 at 3:06 PM 5/30/2003

 

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That is, if the values are correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry doug, even free info has value i verified the gsr map off another source.

 

haa haa i cant believe that you fianlly found them!

Well im getting ems now, but i could still use the instructions the the J&S

But yeah i think that i will just get someone else map, and tune from there. Im pretty excited about getting the ems, whats everyones thought on the system alltogether?

Thanks

Rob

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjardy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haa haa i cant believe that you fianlly found them!

Well im getting ems now, but i could still use the instructions the the J&S

But yeah i think that i will just get someone else map, and tune from there. Im pretty excited about getting the ems, whats everyones thought on the system alltogether?

Thanks

Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fuggin love it, their BB is really helpful too lots of knowledgeable people there... I am anxiously awaiting 1.00, I hopefully will get the boost controller solenoid+VSS+traction control working on my setup. EMS

 

So if I buy an older untio off of someone else, can I upload the new software to the ems so i can run the latest? Or is it like hondata and have to buy another system?

Rob

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjardy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if I buy an older untio off of someone else, can I upload the new software to the ems so i can run the latest? Or is it like hondata and have to buy another system?

Rob </TD></TR></TABLE>

The EMS is software upgradable, so every time they release new software you merely connect your laptop to the EMS via the provided serial cable and upload the new version. Each upgrade includes utilities to convert your old maps to the new version.

 

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That is, if the values are correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you're saying hondata's base maps don't need tuning??

 

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so you're saying hondata's base maps don't need tuning??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyone that I know that has used hondata, has definatly had to tune the maps. On a seperate note, are the base maps that come with EMS, evan close? I know that it depends upon setup and all, but generally speaking, can you start the car?


Rob

 

Its far from rocket science. I had mine up and running in just under an hour.

What setup are you planning on. I can look through the maps on the CD/forum and let you know.

 

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What setup are you planning on. I can look through the maps on the CD/forum and let you know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well its an ls motor, with je 9:1 pistons and eagle rods, plan on running 6psi untill i decide that I need more. t3t04e 57 trim, on a max rev manifold(not that it matters). Im sure someone has a map that will work with this....
thanks man

Rob

 

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so you're saying hondata's base maps don't need tuning??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hehe, your so funny Adam. I would love for Doug to try and talk hondata up on ems.....but why bother fighting a losing battle.

Hmm, thats pretty much my setup. I wouldnt give you my map cause its kinda screwy now. I cant get a decent idle cause of a possible lazy IAC. I want to ditch it and just get a nice idle by playing with timing and fuel and couple other things.

What version are you running?

 

0.89 is the version I'm using till the 1.0 comes out.

Only prob I can even mention is a 25-50 rpm (yeah Im picky) drop in idle when the radiator fan comes on.

 

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What version are you running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who is this question to? me? If so, i havent bought it yet, just trying to learn about it.

Rob

 

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Who is this question to? me? If so, i havent bought it yet, just trying to learn about it.

Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>

you might want to seriously consider sticking with hondata. its the most streetable solution. aem ems v 1.0 software might change everything if its THAT good... but miracles are hard to come by in this business.

and there you have it Doug. you didnt get my $$$ but think of the people that are sent your way thanks to people like me who can offer an honest and unbiased opinion even though i chose a different option. so thanks for the ignition maps. its a fair trade in my book.

 

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you might want to seriously consider sticking with hondata. its the most streetable solution. aem ems v 1.0 software might change everything if its THAT good... but miracles are hard to come by in this business.

and there you have it Doug. you didnt get my $$$ but think of the people that are sent your way thanks to people like me who can offer an honest and unbiased opinion even though i chose a different option. so thanks for the ignition maps. its a fair trade in my book. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Bottom line, i just want something that is easy to tune and will interface and auto map with my techedge. tell me whats best from expeireance(sp i know)

Rob

 

Get hondata..

 

Actually we prefer that our dealers have a wide range of tuning experience in as many engine management systems as possible. That way they are able offer the customer the best advise.

 

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Well i know that Art has had both, but It all comes down to whats going to be easiest to tune, and long term reliablilty, for me anyhow. I have to understand how it works, thats just the way that i am. So any and all info and comments are welcome.

Rob