Im not saying it is increasing anything, for the power of the engine it is doing nothing at all, then again if the engine were the size of my palm the thing would be doing super awesome things. Yes it is a supercharger in the sense that theoretically it compresses the air, but given the power of the engine relative to the unit, it is useless because the vacuum suction of the pistons compresses air more. now as i said, if the vacuum suction of the engine produced lower compression than that which could be achieved by pushing it w/ this unit, then this unit would be benefitial (but still not worth the money)

 

You can get the same thing, at the junkyard off a 300zx turbo. It like a eletric turbo used to cool the mani

 

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you can get the same thing by hooking a blowdryer up to your intake, essentially the concept of a supercharger, but power needed to produce results not present

 

That is not a supercharger...that is a fan that will actually make you lose horsepower....

 

then why not just do this



if it was worth the money, then everyone would do it. do you see the pros doing it?? no. why? it dont work. why?? cant hold pressure on.

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true and a dyno sheet to prove it

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you said it. it is MERCEDES they spend a fortune on testing to make sure it works.

 

how is there even a discussion here, THEY DO NOT WORK, and for the guys who are agrueing what a super charger is and what not, get a ******* life seriously. This thread should be deleted not just locked because people could still open it and become more retarded after reading it

 

lol that is the best pic ever!

Sorry but I just havvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve to steal that

Now kids be nice here dont make me whip out the hose on you two

 

At least the leaf blower stood a chance of making low-rpm gains. Always wanted to see someone do that. Props for something that is a POS but looks cool.

Bottom line is that when you get to higher RPM's you are displacing air faster, and therefore need more of it, making electrical applications ineffective, as they cannot gauge rate of displacement.

 

The fan blades and motor would only be a restriction in the air path of your engine, nothing more. This thread is worthless, my time is better spent staring at this nice shiny dime on the floor...

 

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my point exactly. Though this product is in thoery a supercharger, it will not perform its desired task at a level enough to see results (or even maintain current ones at certain RPM levels)

 

Some of the responses are actually funny. I won't argue what a supercharger is/isn't nor will I say this thing works, just give some facts.

To compress air in the intake side of a motor is to make boost. The way all fans work is by moving air - moving air exerts pressure, and moving air funneled into a closed space such as an intake creates pressure. The MAIN problems with the [cheap] electric 'intake air chargers' are they can't keep a set boost level w/o sensing circuitry, and the cheap ones are the weakest types - axial bladed fans. Centrifugal blower-types - the same concept of the turbos [compresor side] we use - are best suited for high pressure. I bet if someone got 2-4 of the 48volt 300cfm blowers I've seen used for PC projects, they might see some results. Those blowers also tend to be much quieter than their axial equivalents.


For the future, I'd highly recommend than you all use a term like 'electric intake air charger' or something for these things, may produce an actual discussion rather than a war on errorism.

 

thats pretty homo

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some of the responses are actually funny. I won't argue what a supercharger is/isn't nor will I say this thing works, just give some facts.

To compress air in the intake side of a motor is to make boost. The way all fans work is by moving air - moving air exerts pressure, and moving air funneled into a closed space such as an intake creates pressure. The MAIN problems with the [cheap] electric 'intake air chargers' are they can't keep a set boost level w/o sensing circuitry, and the cheap ones are the weakest types - axial bladed fans. Centrifugal blower-types - the same concept of the turbos [compresor side] we use - are best suited for high pressure. I bet if someone got 2-4 of the 48volt 300cfm blowers I've seen used for PC projects, they might see some results. Those blowers also tend to be much quieter than their axial equivalents.


For the future, I'd highly recommend than you all use a term like 'electric intake air charger' or something for these things, may produce an actual discussion rather than a war on errorism.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well compare that 300cfm to the number that a turbo moves into your engine, and then call me in the morning.

 

There is actually an electric charger on the market that does work. The name escapes me but it is available in 2 versions one costs around $400 the other about $700. The more expensive propelled a stock gsr to 13.xx. . I think that one had a 120amp inline fuse with in so it was drawing some major current.

 

i think its called the e-ram, and it has a series of fans and they look pretty powerful, but i still doubt them

edit: ya its called the e-ram, and a single fan pushes 1psi at 1000cfm, they actually have dynos that show 5-10 whp gains, and then there is also the e-ram super or something where there are 2 in series, and it makes 1.7 psi at 1000cfm

 

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my point exactly. Though this product is in thoery a supercharger, it will not perform its desired task at a level enough to see results (or even maintain current ones at certain RPM levels)</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're an idiot.

 

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Thomas Knight E-Superchargers

 

you are a phaqing idiot. you dont even understand how the **** works and your talking all this crap.

neither a super charger or a turbo push air. they compress it as atmospheric pressure pushes it and the engines/turbo/super charger vaccum pulls it into the compressor housing compressing the air charge creating a more dense air flow.

that is how more air is packed into the cylinder for combustion.

the pos that your sticking up for either acts like a fan (hair dryer) or a vaccum. and I highly doubt it would give you 35 hp...in all honesty it will probly take away 35hp...you should buy one.

 

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/t....html

The commentary is first class!

 

wow two pages. lets just agree they suck and do nothing at a benificial level.

 

I leave this forum for a couple years and look what happens