N'viouzEF9

so i wanna turbo my ef its obd1 non vtec ive searched all over and i cant really get any straight answers but its kind of hard trying to decide what to do? so i know i wanna go with a 14b or 16g turbo and run the stock boost which is like 7-9? psi i will be happy with just 5psi im not really trying to race like crazy just a lil here n there its more of just a daily driver and over time ill build a motor for it so heres my questions how do i get it to run 5psi or 6 even 8 if i cant change it should i used a fmu with stock injectors n fuel pump? or should i chip my ecu from www.xenocron.com and use like 320cc injectors because i personally think 450s are over kill n about tuning how much is that? and were's a good shop in northern california or central? also what needs to be done to my car to be able to take it to tune it ? any help thanks

N'viouzEF9

any help?

N'viouzEF9

anybody wow i cant believe there's no help

N'viouzEF9

so should i run a fmu? with the 450's i changed my mind ill be using the 450's now or should i chip my ecu and tune still need help were to tune? and how much roughly

SkeletonSol

Forget the FMU, Go with Blue top DSM 450cc injector's (Can be found for around $100), side mount intercooler from stock DSM and custom piping. Go with Chrome on a P28 ECU and TUNE, TUNE TUNE! big16g is a bit of overkill for what you want, if you aren't planning mods to increase redline, go with a 14b, internal wastgate and a manual boost controller.

N'viouzEF9

i want to use the t25 how would i lower the boost on it why do i need to use the p28 when im not running a vtec motor? cant i just use the p06

CEPerformance

It has been said a million times, don't set "psi goals" set power goals.

The connecting rod in the d-series motors is the "Achilles heel" they can't handle more than 220whp new.

depending on the life the motor has lived so far it would be best to get some stronger internals.

also a smaller turbo would be best as the sohc non-vtec has a low flow rate and a big turbo would never spool.

you can find DSM 390cc injectors for like $40 on craigslist, run those, and if you need your P06 ecu chipped on the cheap pm me.

hope my info helps.

N'viouzEF9

sorry but im not setting any power goals i just want to run a safe boost a low one actually its a daily driver and i wan to race it occasionally

N'viouzEF9

the turbo is set a 8 psi so i guess thats what im sticking with

SkeletonSol

Again, the connecting rods do NOT hold up well under boost. If you're just after a BOV sound, then go with a 14b, you control the boost through a MBC, but you're still going to need a tune and bigger injectors, most use DSM, but you have to use a resistor box on non-saturated injectors. As far as a tuning shop, google is your friend, there is an abundance of them
All through Cali. But for what you're going to spend for the entire set up, you can build the bottom end cheaply and replace AT LEAST the connecting rods, look at a Vitara set up to lower the compression ratio, also, I would get a new
Fuel pump. Walbro set up would work fine.

CEPerformance

You can make 250whp at 8psi.

turbo size determines the power.

think of it like this...

Volume(big turbo)=Power. Velocity(pressure)= torque

a t25 @ 8psi will make 160whp

a gt35r @ 8psi will make 240whp
^
not exactly accurate just an example.

so what you said is completely ignorant, but i'll let you learn the hard way.

N'viouzEF9

ok enough with the bs lets get down to bizness im looking for 150 160ish whp that should be good right for a stock motor im getting the 450's for free and the turbo i have to see what one my dsm friend going to let me have the t25 or 14b as for oil lines what do i use? bov is dsm also n charge pipes will be a mix n match of dsm ones and intercooler will be whatever one i can get my hands on ill be using a cx manifold with adapter plate so heres my list let me know what else i need?

JUNKYARD TURBO KIT BUDGET BUILD
cx manifold with adapter plate
t25 turbo or 14b not sure what one im getting
450cc injectors dsm
dsm bov
charge pipes dsm mix and match to fit
intercooler
a p06 chipped ecu and tune car with crome
oil line's i dont know what ones i need?
also will i need a fuel pump? or is it ok to run my stock one
custom down pipe
misc. vacuum lines and tee's

anly help thanks very appreciated

CEPerformance

That's a good start. a bigger fuel pump shouldn't be necessary but i would suggest it anyway as a precaution.

You never know how old your pump is, or how clean it is internally, the stock pump pushes about 70 liters per hour.

When i went to boost my EG i pulled the tank and found it was full of rust, so i replaced it and went with a walbro 255lph.

my whole setup in my car has less than 2k invested and i just got dyno'd @ 241whp 212ft lbs tq

SkeletonSol

Definitely replace the fuel pump. Walbro will be your best bet, make sure to buy from a reputable dealer, there are many Chinese knockoffs. You are not going to get the flow you need for those injectors without it, I wouldn't run more than 5-7lbs of boost to be safe.

N'viouzEF9

ok thanks guys ill look it to the fuel pump's any recommendation were? to get it

dephtone

If you head to the Marketplace under the Forced Induction the sponsors there are all legit. Personally I got mine from Xenocron. Phearable.net, who also is a sponsor on here, also has them.