so your at full boost with a 13.5 a/f ratio???? man who tuned your car?

and go to 9 grand!

 

no, sorry i didnt make that too clear.. thts when boost starts about 3.5 or 4k, warren over at midnight performance in sacramento tuned it.
9k .. id be a bit cautions.. but i guess thats teh way that i am..

 

I would try to take it somewhere else to get it tunned, the af ratio should be a straight line across the rpm. Your af looks more like an s-afc ratio than a hondata. Reving a built ls head to 8.5 is the max i would go. Also, how's the crower 402T cams and are u using stock cam gears? Do they idle like stock and at wat rpm is your idle?

 

I love the torque curve

 

ya i wouldnt go there again . and if you have aftermarket performance valvetrain , why would you shift at stock rpm?

 

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probably me being cautions and having no *****, but the more i think about it, **** it why not...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.DC2TurBo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Reving a built ls head to 8.5 is the max i would go. Also, how's the crower 402T cams and are u using stock cam gears? Do they idle like stock and at wat rpm is your idle? </TD></TR></TABLE>
no golden eagle cam gears. the 402's are cool, i used to have the stock LS's and i didnt like em, i notice a significant difference

also i think 8.5 k for next time is a good idea.. waht other criticizims are there,because thinkign about it im notthat happy with it. please mroe insight, what should i change, opinioons ect... TIA

 

you can get way over 350 with your setup guarenteed

whats your turbo setup? what intercooler?

 

Changing out your manifold and downpipe most likely won't give you the results you want. Because I made over 400whp on the drag manifold and stock drag downpipe with a stock LS head

 

wat u set your cam gears to, 0? I believe u can run stock timing with 402T so there isn't a need for cam gears. Let me know bc I'm about to go that way with 402T but I wasnt sure if I could use OEM cam gears.

 

this is an easy fix... switch Dyno's and tunners to one that knows what they are doing.

 

your motor seems to be nicely built so that means it can handle alot more boost then you are throwing at it... turn it to like 15-20 then ull start seeing some real power...

 

sup chris??? not too shabby but I wanna see you grow some damn *****! I am talkin big great elephantidous *****! TTYL

 

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, I would be concerned.

 

I agree this guy needs to enhance his testicular fortitude lol

Man up dude, I promise that LS can handle it... I love the LS motor, because you can beat the **** out of it, and it always comes back for more...

Im rockin an LS in my 4 door with JE pistons, shotpeened deburred and cryo'd stock rods, arp rod bolts, balanced and micropolished crank, R oil and water pumps, custom ground cams comparable to the Crower 402's in an otherwise stock head thats locked down with some arp head studs... My motor is considered stock by most Honda heads in my neck of the woods, and I still make about 320/300 and rev it to 7600 all day with no problems... The LS is a beastly motor, and from my experiences, Ive seen that they can take the beating, and as long as they are tuned, they dont even break a sweat....

***** man, thats all you need... Id be willing to bet with a good tune, you could make 400whp on that motor EASILY....

 

quickly i will add. TRANSMISSION HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHP. The transmission (AND WHAT GEAR YOUR IN) determins the ratio of engine turns to wheel turns. How the **** could that not have anything to do with whp? Go read. Revving a built LS is not a limitation of the head, but of the crank. Boo on all of your bad information.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by please.laugh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quickly i will add. TRANSMISSION HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHP. The transmission (AND WHAT GEAR YOUR IN) determins the ratio of engine turns to wheel turns. How the **** could that not have anything to do with whp? Go read. Revving a built LS is not a limitation of the head, but of the crank. Boo on all of your bad information. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so your saying if I had a stock LS with stock tranny that's making 140hp, I can add a type r tranny to it and it will make more than 140hp???? I don't think so. Good try.

 

those are some sad numbers u sure you don't have a d series

 

well i guess ill have to save up some dough and get it re-tuned.****

 

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thanks for the critcizim *******... we've established they are not good #'s.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that tune. I would have richened it up a tad while under full boost, but thats just for precaution.

The biggest thing is why the car seems not to be making torque, which will directly corrilate into HP. Now i would look at your cam settings. Also I would take a look at the turbo's compressor map and check if you are running the turbo inefficently at that pressure level.

I bet if you played with the CAM adjustments you would see your power go up quite a bit.

http://evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=790

Talk to Jeff, he will help you out. Very nice guy, but hes busy.

 

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LS crank is a mere 1.8mm more stroke than a GSR/ITR crank. That is not going to significantly alter your rod ratio. I have a LS crank in my built motor and it see's 9k at least once a week. Your wrong about the LS crank being the rpm limitation.

 

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what a ****.

 

its obvious something is wrong with his set-up, even he is pissed off by his numbers. call me *******, ****, *** or whatever but thats not gonna solve your problem.

 

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EXACTLY !

[QUOTE=careawholelot] even he is pissed off by his numbers. call me *******, ****, *** or whatever but thats not gonna solve your problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Neither is your negative attitude, hater.

 

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no no jeff , see thats a typical LS motor , if he had a build D series , he would have gotton 603whp on pump gas.