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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess it helps keep the water on the parts of the motor instead of boiling and having air pockets or something. I understand what he meant, I just can't re state it..</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's about right, it lowers the surface tension so that air bubbles can't stay together.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its acts as a surfacant. Just Google it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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holy ****... cheesefrog came out of his hole ,lol

personally i just run water wetter... i get it for alsmot nothing so why not
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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this guy told me the soap will stick to the block and water will get trapped and thus cooling bettter
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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i don't trust myself with soap. i run just water and water wetter as well. i get it for $2 a bottle so i run 2 bottles instead of 1.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Ive hear of sprint cars running straight water wetter. Come on guys we can save them money!! Seriously though good thread
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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water wetter and distilled water is what we run in our race bikes... the temps stay incredibly low. we swear by water wetter, therefore its all i will use
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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damm, I've never heard of this. Where can water wetter be purchased?
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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autozone, pep boys. etc

just make sure you follow directions and use distilled water, no coolant
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">autozone, pep boys. etc

just make sure you follow directions and use distilled water, no coolant</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is this method also used in daily driven cars? Just curious...
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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sorry to ask but where do you guys add the soap? and what does it do?
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboChrgd_Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is this method also used in daily driven cars? Just curious...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i use it in mine. i drove around with no fan on my rad in traffic. temps never got over 190. of course i have a mugen low-temp tstat as well.

i will drain a bit of the water wetter/water mix and put in a little coolant if its around winter time, but other than that its water wetter and distilled water
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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so does soap foam it up in the system or not/?
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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No, it doesn't. Don't use more than a drop or two.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Never heard of using soap. Sounds like people are decently happy with it. I will be using water wetter when I get my motor in though...
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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has anyone tried this with some sort of datalogging? how much of a diff does it make?
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EE_Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, it doesn't. Don't use more than a drop or two.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is that one or two drop of the concentrated version or the regular version?
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integlspwr2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is that one or two drop of the concentrated version or the regular version?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have been using a couple of small drops of REGULAR Dawn for 25 years... So put a couple of drops in the radiator, then use the rest on your dishes!

However, I don't think it matters between regular and concentrated.... we're just playing with and modifying the solution's surface tension or it's ability to wet the block and radiator... Oh, now I get it, water wetter!

BTW here is what is in Redline Water Wetter:

DiIsoPropyl Alcohol Ether 1-4.9% Bigmoose thinks this is dissolving agent and dispersant
TriIsopropyl Alcohol Diether 1-4.9% Bigmoose thinks this is dissolving agent and dispersant
Sodium Molybdate 1-4.9% Bigmoose thinks this is a corrosion inhibitor for steel
Tolyltriazole 1-3% Bigmoose thinks this is a corrosion inhibitor for brass and bronze
PolySiloxane Polymer Bigmoose thinks this is a ionic surfactant

Now you know...perhaps... you chemists backstop me here.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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so maybe like 2 drops of the concentrated stuff?

I think i'll try it today when i get home.

I use honda blue coolant, the 50/50 premix stuff, so i just put like 2 drops of the concentraded dawn soap in my radiator and then cap it off?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigMoose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have been using a couple of small drops of REGULAR Dawn for 25 years... So put a couple of drops in the radiator, then use the rest on your dishes!

However, I don't think it matters between regular and concentrated.... we're just playing with and modifying the solution's surface tension or it's ability to wet the block and radiator... Oh, now I get it, water wetter!

BTW here is what is in Redline Water Wetter:

DiIsoPropyl Alcohol Ether 1-4.9% Bigmoose thinks this is dissolving agent and dispersant
TriIsopropyl Alcohol Diether 1-4.9% Bigmoose thinks this is dissolving agent and dispersant
Sodium Molybdate 1-4.9% Bigmoose thinks this is a corrosion inhibitor for steel
Tolyltriazole 1-3% Bigmoose thinks this is a corrosion inhibitor for brass and bronze
PolySiloxane Polymer Bigmoose thinks this is a ionic surfactant

Now you know...perhaps... you chemists backstop me here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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sorry to bring this up.... you say to run water wetter with only distilled water and not coolant during the summer time !?!? i live in MIAMI, FL. so it is NEVER winter time here ... and i've been having issues with this.... any input is greatly appreciated !!!
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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found this post

Cooling systems are an often overlooked area of any car. People often think that as long as the gauge isn't above normal then that's all the attention needed. The thing is, that the cooler you can allow your engine to operate, the lower underhood temperatures will be. This will also reduce intake temperatures due to a reduction in radiating heat from the head to the intake manifold. So how about something quick and simple that can reduce ENGINE temperatures as well as oil temperatures as much as 20 degrees? Get some hand soap or dish soap (I use the brand Soft Soap...thanks T.O.O.) and add a few drops of it to the radiator. This means two or three little drops, thats all thats needed. Why does this work you ask? Well the addition of such an additive breaks the surface tension of the coolant itself allowing it to more effectively "cling" to internal surfaces, which will in turn cool the engine more effectively. What will be the result is overall cooler engine and oil temperatures. This has a great effect on reducing thermal breakdown of the viscosity of the oil, which may allow more "leakage" into the combustion chamber. This leakage into the chamber will result in degradation of the knock resistance of the fuel itself. Also, more effective cylinder sleeve cooling will allow better heat transfer through the rings, valve seats, and plug threads which will increase the detonation threshold.

Now as a sidenote, your coolant temperature sensor doesn't actually show you ENGINE temperature, it shows you coolant temperature. The boundary layer that is present not only keeps coolant from acting as it should internally in the motor, but keeps it from completely acting upon the thermally dependent temperature sensor. What this means is basically, after adding the soap, your gauge may actually read a tad higher. Don't be alarmed because this is telling you that more of the coolant is actually acting on the temperature sensor, remember it causes the coolant to "cling". This will allow the coolant to give the gauge a more accurate reading, by more completely contacting the sensors surface! All that results is a better ability to monitor the engines true condition, as well as prolonged engine life. And you thought Dawn was just for taking grease outa your way.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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looks like it's time to steal the roomates bottle of dawn for a minute or two lol
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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I used 2 drops of sunlight dishsoap, I can tell a difference. Seriously.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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ive used soap drops for years . it works great. dont have any corrosion issues so far.....
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