Darton, Benson, AEBS, Golden Eagle, which sleeves are you guys running if any. Trying to see who is going to sleeve my block, just wanted to hear from any past clients they might have, and what they have to say.

Also, head work? Port Flow, CnC Port, any past costumers here with some of their headwork?

Thanks in advance.

 

I would have to say sleeving is personal preference. All the above mentioned are rock solid except for AEBS. I personally have seen 5 to many AEBS sleeves fail for one reason or another in the past 6 months. I personally run Darton MID's in my GSR block and have no complaints what so ever. You can't go wrong with Darton's, Benson (whom uses Darton's), or Golden Eagle.

Head work is also a personal preference. You have HeadGames, Endyn, Portflow, RLZ, etc. Any of the ones I mentioned are great but again there are serveral other choices that are just as good. Pricing certainly varies with different porters so its really up to how much you wanna spend. Also, if you do a search you can see tons of feedback on different porters. Matter of fact there is a thread pertaining to just that and it has several different companies and each customer posted their experience with that particular porter.

 

my personal experience with aebs sleeves is crap. ive had to take my motor apart i think 4 times in the past year and a half, and its all been due to the sleeves. mainly the deck surface cant stay even between block and sleeves and the motor mixes coolant along the hg.

i will be going with either darton through benson or golden eagle over the winter

 

and here is a good thread from drag racing forum on what head porting companys or persons everyone prefers, has run, is running, etc.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2155441

 

Any other experiences with AEBS? (hopefully some good ones...)

I recently bought a H22a4 block from someone, that's sitting in my garage now, that was sleeved by AEBS and then was sent to Kaizenspeed to be built. Still shiny and has never been ran.

 

CNC-Port does some of our heads and they do great work. For sleeving, we use ERL as well as Darton

 

I have AEBS sleeves, sleeved by Z-10 over 4 years old now with zero issues. I even dropped a valve had it rebuilt and its still going strong......

 

Cant beat the price of Golden Eagle. I think all the sleeves are equally good, its a matter of WHO actually does the sleeving/machining. I dont know about the other companies but GE uses a CNC machine and bolts the block down on the mains to keep the block from twisting. My GE sleeved block required no costly line bore (usually $250+) which only a few machine shops know how to do properly.

 

I myself run GE sleeves in all my cars and recommend them, but ALL sleeve companies mentioned are good. I would give each a call and go from there.


Modified by CerealKiller at 12:56 PM 12/10/2007

 

AEBS all the way!!!!

 

In my past car I had a B16 with Benson sleeves and had great luck with them. Ran several different setups over about 3 years and never a problem with the sleeves. Even talked to Benson himself a few times and thought he was a great guy who was very knowledgeable. Benson gets a and I would definately reccomend him and his services.

 

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kaizenspeed assembled by block and they did a great job with clearances and break in. i beat on the motor and i felt like it was bullet proof.

bensons would be my choice and my next build will also be bensons sleeved.

 

to each his own and everyone has opinions. i have always used AEBS and knock on wood, ive never had a failure. i have seen some darton sleeves sink. i would use any of those companies and you'll more than likely get a great product

 

Lovely turnout thus far. I knew I would get the most response here, and to me it seems that all of them are on par with each other, but its a matter of who actually installs the product. In that case, who sleeved/built your block?

 

Interesting quote I found by Mike Kojima.... I'm hoping he's dead on bawlz accurate here. Reading this is what convinced me to buy the block I just got. But, maybe he's wrong.... ya never freagin know... (hope not )

"""The best sleeves, in my opinion, are those made by AEBS. These sleeves feature a thick deck plate built into the sleeve, which solves both the sleeve cracking and any head gasket sealing issues in one easy operation. The deck plates abut each other and brace against the outer flanges of the block so they cannot move. This gives a superior strength to the cylinder wall, lots of clamp area for the head gasket, as well as a load of support, preventing the sleeves from walking around.

STR also makes excellent thick-wall sleeves that brace against the block wall to prevent shifting under load. The top of the STR sleeve is more open than the AEBS sleeve, which allows even coolant circulation,but does not give as much gasket seating area.This may be better for strong, naturally aspirated engines, but boosted or nitrous-equipped engines would still probably be better off with the thick-decked AEBS sleeves.""""

Full article: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.....html



Modified by Squad Walker at 6:21 PM 12/10/2007

 

oh yea, my 2 cents... benson/ laskey racing and port flow get a

 

I just found laskey racing yesterday, interesting they pop up. Good looks guys.

 

Im about to send all my stuff out to GE, however I found a post in the archives which had really bad reviews.

 

Bad reviews for GE, never thought I'd hear that, link please...

 

GE

Sent two blocks...
Had both back in a month... not a bad turn around considering its a week from nc to ca shipping time each way...

 

Back to back conflicting comments, very nice. Still waiting on the link for the problems with GE, because I with all of my open mind find that hard to believe.

 

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If it was archived, I wouldn't be suprised if it were several years old, from the batch of blocks that had sunk. It wasn't that many, but the reverberations still come up every once in a while.

5 years of 20 GE blocks from our shop, never had a problem whatsoever.

 

not this thread again


Golden Eagle gets our vote ! been blasting these blocks with 800 ++ hp for years and they just love it !

my personal block is an old Godzilla sleeve with copper o ring. this thing was in 2 street cars before being placed into my racecar. the street cars were 450hp, 500+ hp, and the racecar is 800 + hp.

the other racecar has the new HD sleeve with copper o ring, same block has been in use since 05 !! never a problem @ 800 + hp and over 60 dyno pulls/ track pass's.

 

If you want the link let me know, IM not going to post it here, because that isnt just right for them.

 

Golden Eagle Gets my vote....

Lots of kms on my motor this year, with no issues.. Easy to deal with and they do awesome work..

I would also recommend Benson, I hear good things and they were awesome for answering questions for me. Only reason I ended up goin with GE was because of shipping to canada..