dxcivicsi

i got a 1999 DX civic, wanting to put a turbo in it, but i got some questions about the other internals, i've been reading that some ppl say that a y8 tranny is better, but is that a straight change or is there going to be some mods for that?? and are there any other parts that i should have to change to prevent a total destruction of my engine lol ?? And last but not least actually the most important, what kind of turbo kit should i get for this SOHC? AND ENGINE SWAP NOT A OPTION NOT ENOUGH $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, i plan to get most of this done PRO unless i can do some of the things, just dont want to mess anything up and then forced to buy a new engine or car :p, if anyone has done this sort of thing please try to give me ruff $$ estimate THanks

0mtber

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A y8 tranny will bolt up without modification.

Just an FYI... putting together a quality turbo kit is going to cost almost as much as an engine swap by the time its all done.

tcbhonda

for the cost of what a good turbo kit and tune will run you you can do a swap. if you go all egay **** you can do a shitty kit and get shitty results. expect to spend about 4k for a good turbo kit with tune. remember cheap fast reliable pick 2!! since i assume your car is stick why dont you just do a b16 swap turning your car into pretty much a 99-00 si.

dxcivicsi

I know it'll be close but i think still cheaper no? cause if i do get a swap it'll be a stock engine plus a turbo on that cause from others expeirences buying a engine with a turbo on it, is not smart

Garage 808 Hatch

I'm currently building a Y7 turbo car. Vitara bottom end, etc. doing the fab work ourselves. they're pretty fun. also we had a wagovan with a Y7 swapped into it, bone stock bottom end, just a regrind can and a cheapy kit on it, ran mid-high 12's in full street trim on 22x8 slicks. i believe it laid down 230whp on the dynojet

tcbhonda

your y7 makes 107 hp fine and dandy with a turbo you might be able to make 170 ish . if you do a gsr swap now you are already at 170hp and for another couple hundred you can do like 185 ish. simple **** like i/h/e. no you have 185 very reliable hp with no lag. plus you have to consider things like a good clutch and **** like that when you decided to put boost to your tired old d16

ABK

you can put together built single cam and good turbo kit up and running for less then $4000 (you just got to know the recipe). Even stock boosted single cam will put down more power the b series swapped car. Single cams are way cheaper then b series to put together.
People put down single cams too much. IMO cheapest way to go if you want to push around 400-450whp.

tcbhonda

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-H...3A1|240%3A1318

here is the gsr swap. plus 700 you can pry tickle mid 13s on slicks and the power will always be there ready for you

ABK

I don't know about mid 13s unless it's a gutted hatch. GSR is nice if it's a daily driver, if you are looking for power swapping it might not be a good idea unless you got another 2.5gs to dump into it after that to turbo it. And then you still shouldn't push more then 300-330whp out of it unless you want it to pop (yes I know you can push way more but then you push your luck). If you are still thinking about swapping it suggest sites like craigslist where you can get the same thing for $1500. I would never pay over $2000 for gsr swap.

tcbhonda

I am not knocking the single cams potential I am just saying that if you expect to get a reliable street car with reliable power I would swap. I have boosted many single cams and yes there fun and when **** does go wrong its cheap to fix. but if he wantes to eventually make 300whp a stock b series bottom end is up to the task where a stock d series is not. if you want the best of both worlds cheap and turbo go with an ls swap and boost that mad torque and plenty reliable if done right.

tcbhonda

I just had a thought. pry def not the most reliable idea but swap in a b series keep it n/a drive it all day with good street manners and perhaps when you want to go fast throw a little special sauce at it now you have plenty of power and it power now.

dxcivicsi

im not looking to put-up good track numbers hell probably wont take my car ever to the track. I just want a quick, car that has adequate HP, just to screw around with my friends and what not. so thats why i dont wont to go swap, all i really wanted to know is a general ball park price range for someone that has done this, and some tips and hints to what i should change and keep in my car

tcbhonda

well from my experience you can go with the egay kits they are very good for the nickel and dime **** like oil lines and pretty much all the **** that is so simple it cant be ****ed up if made in china.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__T3-T4-D-SERIES-TURBO-KIT-D15-D16-DEL-SOL-CRX-HONDA-SOHC_W0QQitemZ160306266449QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q2 6Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewIte mQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item 160306266449&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A 2|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Just remember to wrap your manifold good and if want go to a local tig welder and have him add material to all the welds that look weak. I have personally welded up and used these manifolds many times with no problems.

One thing is the **** that can be ****ed up (Turbo that is very hit or miss)


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Turbonetics-T3-T4-T04E-50-Turbo-Free-Shipping_W0QQitemZ260319696250QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ 20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZVie wItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash= item260319696250&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=7 2%3A543|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Use a good turbo

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__AUTHENTIC-TIAL-38MM-Wastegate-38-NEW-Garrett-Turbo_W0QQitemZ220314563299QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q 26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewIt emQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=ite m220314563299&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3 A543|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

use a good wg(dont trust your tiny con rods to some meow meow ****)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBD2-to-OBD1-CONVERSION-HARNESS-HONDA-CIVIC-INTEGRA_W0QQitemZ330296280688QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMo tors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item33029628 0688&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543|65%3 A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

since running an fmu or piggy back is a no no

http://www.xenocron.com/catalog/chip...ecu-p-154.html

chipped ecu

http://www.xenocron.com/catalog/prec...nce-p-143.html

the right injectors

http://www.xenocron.com/catalog/repl...ips-p-166.html

the right clips

http://www.xenocron.com/catalog/base...tom-p-279.html

and finally a base map

add all these up and your looking at ~1900$ now you have to factor some other stuff in

1. you might be able to find used parts in good shape
2. you WILL need a final tune if you want it to last
3. who will do the install
4. I did not include drive train upgrades
5. Gauges are on your own because everyone has there own style
6. get rid of your shitty gas sipping intake manifold and tiny throttle body

so when its all said and done expect to pay between pry 3k to 4k depending how you go

just my .02

dxcivicsi

hmm thats very helpful man thanks a lot i think ill probably get all that stuff at once but wait till get the good turbo, just to see if the egay one is a hit or miss lol but ya ill probably get a diff tranny but i havent read on ppl changing throttle body or intake mani, when putting a turbo for SOHC

tcbhonda

well on your y7 the intake manifold is very small as far as runner size and your throttle body is very small too not to mention it faces up wtf?? get a d16y8 intake manifold and throttle body its much bigger and puts the throttle body where it needs to be. one note when doing this swap which will actually need to be done anyways when converting to obd1 is to get a 2wire iacv which is a cinch to hook up and make work since all man trans y8s had a 2 wire where as all y7s had a 3 wire on the throttle body. where are you located?? I build hondas for a living and if you want will help you out with anything you need

good wite up your y7 manifold is the one on the left i know its a write up for a d14 but we dont have them so replace the d14a3 with d16y7 in your head

http://www.dodo-upgrades.nl/imswapd14a34.htm

dxcivicsi

o ic man thanks for all your help ill probably get this going in the next month or so lol, and im located in Abbotsford bc canada lol, it would be dumb luck if you where close

dxcivicsi

do you think this is a good idea its pretty cheap and good brands http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pts/959532797.html it came off a d-seri 1.6 95 civc

tcbhonda

other than the missing link and fmu it seems like a good kit. I am not to sure on the top mount intercooler unless you want to toss a suby scoop right behind of your pass side headlight I would look at the kit and play close attention to the turbo pop your finger in there and feel the shaft there should be very little side to side play and NO in and out play. if there is even the slightest bit it means the thrust and thus the oil seals are bad and your poor little civic will look like a semi every time you accelerate. the t28 is a good turbo for d series with insanely fast spool and will produce the 200whp or so your shooting for.

Garage 808 Hatch

you can always build a cheap *** vitara block. ~$100 pistons ~200-300 for rods, depending on brand, ~100 for machine work, (clean, measure, balance) ACL bearings, and then you have a bottom end easily capable of more power than you are looking for.

I have $450 into my bottom end

ABK

vitara ftw. Cheap setup plus good power.

tcbhonda

I agree but if you go that far you should get a y8 head to replace that shitty non vtec y7. but that would require you to get a chipped p28 ecu and run a few extra wires

nospeeedaccord

okay, i bought a 91 4 door. got the d16y7 swap. 91 ex or something ecu...its an lx car. got the wires run for the y7 swap...i wanna put a y8 head on it. and turbo..how hard is it to put the p28 ecu in there? i never messed with hondas before. will i need a wire harness adapter or anything to hook up the stock 91 wires to the p28 ecu? how's that work..plus i know i have to run the vtec wires....eliminate the orange wire...blah blah...i dunno..can somebody help, or point me in the right direction?