d16a6 turbo
10-29-2012, 10:29 AM
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d16a6 turbo
im new to honda tech im here to get any advice on building a 300hp d16a6 turbo in 90 civic hatchback. im defently getting eagle rods but undecided what pistons to run i was thinking of vitara piston or cp pistons any help will be great thanks how much hp can vitara piston hold untell melting or cracking
10-29-2012, 12:28 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
The problem with standard length rods and vitara pistons is that it drops the compression ratio to like 7.5 to 1 and it makes the car almost undrivable out of boost. Unless you get custom length rods you should just get off the shelf forged pistons like wiseco or CP.
Getting 300 out of a non Vtec D is going to be hard, you're more than likely going to need a cam and head work at the very least plus the built bottom end
Getting 300 out of a non Vtec D is going to be hard, you're more than likely going to need a cam and head work at the very least plus the built bottom end
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10-29-2012, 02:41 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
wow 7.5.1 yea thats super low i was shooting more like 8.5.1 and was told vitara and eagle rods will put me in that cp ratio. where can i purchase these custom rods? should i get eagle rods and cp piston and keep my stock cp ratio
10-29-2012, 02:49 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
Block sohc zc
PISTONS- VITARA OR CP
RODS- golden eagle h beam
BLOCK GUARD- golden eagle
ACL race bearing kit
–
HEAD ZC NON VTEC
VALVE SPRINGS – supertech
RETAINERS- supertech
CAM- bisimoto 1.2 turbo cam
(3 amlge valve job)
Cometic head gasket
GASKET MATCH EVERY THING
FUEL SYTEM
255 walbro pump
INJECTORS 750CC
INTAKE MANIFOLD
SKUNK2 66mm tb
THERMOL GASKET golden eagle
COOLING SYSTEM
HALF SIZE aluminum radiator
MISHIMOTO hose kit( ebay)
DAILY 8PSI – 15PSI MAX
GOALS-300whp – 350whp
TUNE ON CHROME
CAN I MAKE 300WHP WITH THESE PARTS
PISTONS- VITARA OR CP
RODS- golden eagle h beam
BLOCK GUARD- golden eagle
ACL race bearing kit
–
HEAD ZC NON VTEC
VALVE SPRINGS – supertech
RETAINERS- supertech
CAM- bisimoto 1.2 turbo cam
(3 amlge valve job)
Cometic head gasket
GASKET MATCH EVERY THING
FUEL SYTEM
255 walbro pump
INJECTORS 750CC
INTAKE MANIFOLD
SKUNK2 66mm tb
THERMOL GASKET golden eagle
COOLING SYSTEM
HALF SIZE aluminum radiator
MISHIMOTO hose kit( ebay)
DAILY 8PSI – 15PSI MAX
GOALS-300whp – 350whp
TUNE ON CHROME
CAN I MAKE 300WHP WITH THESE PARTS
10-29-2012, 02:52 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
Block sohc zc
PISTONS- VITARA OR CP
RODS- golden eagle h beam
BLOCK GUARD- golden eagle
ACL race bearing kit
–
HEAD ZC NON VTEC
VALVE SPRINGS – supertech
RETAINERS- supertech
CAM- bisimoto 1.2 turbo cam
(3 amlge valve job)
Cometic head gasket
GASKET MATCH EVERY THING
FUEL SYTEM
255 walbro pump
INJECTORS 750CC
INTAKE MANIFOLD
SKUNK2 66mm tb
THERMOL GASKET golden eagle
COOLING SYSTEM
HALF SIZE aluminum radiator
MISHIMOTO hose kit( ebay)
DAILY 8PSI – 15PSI MAX
GOALS-300whp – 350whp
TUNE ON CHROME
CAN I MAKE 300WHP WITH THESE PARTS
PISTONS- VITARA OR CP
RODS- golden eagle h beam
BLOCK GUARD- golden eagle
ACL race bearing kit
–
HEAD ZC NON VTEC
VALVE SPRINGS – supertech
RETAINERS- supertech
CAM- bisimoto 1.2 turbo cam
(3 amlge valve job)
Cometic head gasket
GASKET MATCH EVERY THING
FUEL SYTEM
255 walbro pump
INJECTORS 750CC
INTAKE MANIFOLD
SKUNK2 66mm tb
THERMOL GASKET golden eagle
COOLING SYSTEM
HALF SIZE aluminum radiator
MISHIMOTO hose kit( ebay)
DAILY 8PSI – 15PSI MAX
GOALS-300whp – 350whp
TUNE ON CHROME
CAN I MAKE 300WHP WITH THESE PARTS
10-29-2012, 03:21 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
i'm not a fan of the vitar setup at all.
works but far from effecient.
the last d16a6 turbo guy i talked to had miniram 57trim + rods + 10.1cr pistons + cam and was at 270whp @ +15-17psi...
300whp on stg1 cam 57trim non vtec d series... sure possible but more easily done and on less boost with z6.
GL
works but far from effecient.
the last d16a6 turbo guy i talked to had miniram 57trim + rods + 10.1cr pistons + cam and was at 270whp @ +15-17psi...
300whp on stg1 cam 57trim non vtec d series... sure possible but more easily done and on less boost with z6.
GL
10-29-2012, 03:28 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
IM DOING THIS BUILD TO PROVE NON VTEC MOTOR CAN MAKE POWER WITH RIGHT LOVE AND TOUCH. I KNO IT CAN BE MADE EASIER WITH Z6 HEAD BUT WANNA BE DIFFERENT. WHAT PISTONS DO YOU RECOMMEND?
10-30-2012, 07:52 AM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
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YCP 75mm Vitara Pistons & Custom Length Rods Combo D16
YCP 75mm Vitara Pistons & Custom Length Rods Combo D16
Introducing the YCP and custom length connecting rods combo for all D16 applications. We have combined these popular parts into a cost saving combo. This combination of specially selected parts has been proven to hold 500+ WHP.
These I-Beam connecting rods have been custom made to work in conjunction with the Vitara pistons. They increase compression to reduce the slow spool time associated with Vitara pistons and a stock length rod.
- Block notching required*
- ~8.5:1 compression depending on head.
- 600HP Rated.
- Includes ARP 2000 3/8” rod bolts & assembly lube.
- Use with Vitara pistons only.
The P2P0 YCP Vitara pistons are custom made with friction reducing Teflon™ skirt coating. YCP makes the Vitara pistons that set the high HP records. Others may claim they have a superior piston but YCP has been proven time and again.
- Stock 2.952” PM3 diameter
- Teflon™ piston skirt coating
- Includes NPR gas nitride N-51 treated rings
- High strength AC8A grade casting
- T-6 stress relieving heat treatment
- Full floating 9310 case hardened pins
YCP 75mm Vitara Pistons & Custom Length Rods Combo D16
YCP 75mm Vitara Pistons & Custom Length Rods Combo D16
Introducing the YCP and custom length connecting rods combo for all D16 applications. We have combined these popular parts into a cost saving combo. This combination of specially selected parts has been proven to hold 500+ WHP.
These I-Beam connecting rods have been custom made to work in conjunction with the Vitara pistons. They increase compression to reduce the slow spool time associated with Vitara pistons and a stock length rod.
- Block notching required*
- ~8.5:1 compression depending on head.
- 600HP Rated.
- Includes ARP 2000 3/8” rod bolts & assembly lube.
- Use with Vitara pistons only.
The P2P0 YCP Vitara pistons are custom made with friction reducing Teflon™ skirt coating. YCP makes the Vitara pistons that set the high HP records. Others may claim they have a superior piston but YCP has been proven time and again.
- Stock 2.952” PM3 diameter
- Teflon™ piston skirt coating
- Includes NPR gas nitride N-51 treated rings
- High strength AC8A grade casting
- T-6 stress relieving heat treatment
- Full floating 9310 case hardened pins
10-30-2012, 09:01 AM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
I never understood why people go to lengths getting custom rods only to use CAST pistons.
If you are building the engine for 300+, do it properly.
If you are building the engine for 300+, do it properly.
10-30-2012, 10:18 AM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
should i buy the cp pistons with eagle rods and keep my 9.1.1 ratio. i agreee forged rods with cast piston dosnt seem right but every one tells me vitara good for 400hp plus and there almost half the price but like you said do it properly. im shooting for 8.5.1 ratio if i use eagle rods what piston should i use?? PLEASE HELP ONE OTHER THING SHOULD I DO A GOLDEN EAGLE BLOCK GUARD OR THERE
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10-30-2012, 01:56 PM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
The problem with standard length rods and vitara pistons is that it drops the compression ratio to like 7.5 to 1 and it makes the car almost undrivable out of boost. Unless you get custom length rods you should just get off the shelf forged pistons like wiseco or CP.
Getting 300 out of a non Vtec D is going to be hard, you're more than likely going to need a cam and head work at the very least plus the built bottom end
Getting 300 out of a non Vtec D is going to be hard, you're more than likely going to need a cam and head work at the very least plus the built bottom end
10-31-2012, 06:12 AM
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The problem with standard length rods and vitara pistons is that it drops the compression ratio to like 7.5 to 1 and it makes the car almost undrivable out of boost.
Getting 300 out of a non Vtec D is going to be hard, you're more than likely going to need a cam and head work at the very least plus the built bottom end
Getting 300 out of a non Vtec D is going to be hard, you're more than likely going to need a cam and head work at the very least plus the built bottom end
didn't think so....dont spread false info
my eagle vitara does just fine out of boost, feels no different than a stock n/a d-series. danz on dso or on here i think his name was welfarepc or something like that ran 10's on his budget a6 more than doable on a stock head. eagle/vitara bottom end and a stock head with properly sized turbo(aka not ebay) and you will be just fine
http://www.rcautoworksstore.com/cut/...86c5e74306a05d
^^^^^click this link^^^^
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10-31-2012, 07:58 AM
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Re: d16a6 turbo
have you ever driven a eagle vitara motor?
didn't think so....dont spread false info
my eagle vitara does just fine out of boost, feels no different than a stock n/a d-series. danz on dso or on here i think his name was welfarepc or something like that ran 10's on his budget a6 more than doable on a stock head. eagle/vitara bottom end and a stock head with properly sized turbo(aka not ebay) and you will be just fine
http://www.rcautoworksstore.com/cut/...86c5e74306a05d
^^^^^click this link^^^^
.
didn't think so....dont spread false info
my eagle vitara does just fine out of boost, feels no different than a stock n/a d-series. danz on dso or on here i think his name was welfarepc or something like that ran 10's on his budget a6 more than doable on a stock head. eagle/vitara bottom end and a stock head with properly sized turbo(aka not ebay) and you will be just fine
http://www.rcautoworksstore.com/cut/...86c5e74306a05d
^^^^^click this link^^^^
.