so i have been doing a lot of reading and gathering of info on boosting my motor. i have found a setup that i think will be good for the 250-300 whp i am looking for.
leet me know what you think of the setup and if you have any advice i am open to it.

Greddy Type-RS BOV
T3/T04E Oil Feed/Return kit
Silicone couplers
Garrett t3/t04e turbo
EG/EK/DC Steel FMIC piping kit
Spoolin performance 27X6.5X3.5 intercooler
Spoolin performance Log Manifold
Tial 38mm Wastegate
2.5" Spoolin performance Downpipe
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
DSM 450cc injectors and resistor box
ATP Single Stage MBC
T-Bolt clamps
Spoolin performance Wastegate dump tube








Modified by 1995civicEJ at 8:49 AM 3/21/2007

 

What pistons/rods are you going to use? Also, that turbo is a bit small for those goals.

What are you going to tune it with?

 

i am gunna use a completely stock d15b vtec. the turbo is good for 290, i have read and asked around and everyone says it is good for 290 whp. i am gunna tune with crome pro.

 

Good luck hitting 290 with a stock block. There are only a handful of people ever that have hit that high of number on a stock block, and they were using turbos way bigger than a T3.

290 is really going to be on the outer limits of the 60 trim compressor map. I would go with a T3/o4e if I were you.

 

i am not shooting for the outerlimits, i want soemthing that has a good power band, and is a good street setup.

 

also, woul i get a .48 a/r or .63 and would i go with 57 or 60 trim on a t3/t04e?

 

ive read over and over the D15 is only good up to 200whp. things start decintigrating in the bottom end after that.

I am planning on turboing a D15 as well, but only expect 170whp or so. Its hard to find rods and pistons for the D15 to build it. (I should mention ive never looked lol, but have read it over and over and have been discouraged.)


If you do get it to 290whp, I would be very impressed!!! Hell, I WANT you to prove the world wrong! I love the turbo D15.
Dan

 

is your car a d15b7? d15b vtec? what? i have a d15b vtec, pretty much the same motor as d16z6 and i have seen those at 400 hp on stock blocks.

 

ok, after many suggestions to switch turbos, i am going to go with a garrett t3/t04e. this will help me in my quest for 250-300 hp cuz the turbo is good for 475, so i will not be near maxing out the turbo, and i will have to build the hell out of my motor before being able to push the turbo to it's limits, so this seems like a better idea.

 

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Where are these 400whp stock block d16z6 cars that you are talking about?

The highest stock block d16z6 that I know of is the epic tuning Ef, and I don't think it's hit 400.

I would encourage you to do some more research. It takes a lot more to make 400hp than just slapping a turbo on a motor. You will see once you start getting closer to actually being boosted.

 

i know it takes a lot, by stock, i meant stock sleeves, sorry...

 

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Where are these 400whp stock block d16z6 cars that you are talking about?

The highest stock block d16z6 that I know of is the epic tuning Ef, and I don't think it's hit 400.
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forums.evans-tuning.com

 

nice find. never seen that site before. there are some beastly cars on there. i dont want to get that far into this build, just a fun daily driver.

 

any more help???

 

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Okay, where are all the 400whp stock d-series builds?

 

search through there, i found a 375 whp stock block civic, put that into hp at the flywheel, and there you go...over 400hp.

 

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Yeah, there's one. The Epic Tuning EF, like I already mentioned. That's only one.

Trust me, that is a freak motor. There are thousands of motors that blow well below the 250 mark. Then one guy hits almost 400 and now everyone thinks that a stock block d16z6 can handle 400. lol

 

im not saying all stock d's can handle that, that is obvious that they can't cuz if they could everyone would be doing it. im jsut saying i have seen it done. i am aiming right at the 250-300 whp range, i think i can get there pretty easily.

 

For 250-300hp on a d-series I would do the following to the internals:

Deck the head and block
get a fresh bore on the block
micropolish crank
replace piston,rods,bearings,headstuds,headgasket


Yes you can push 300hp out of a stock d-series but I rather slightly build it and not have to worry about it.


Modified by JoePSI at 12:53 PM 3/22/2007

 

well, this is by DD so pulling the engine for headwork and stuff is not a possibility. i would love to tear it down, sleeve it, bore it out, blueprint it, balance everything, port and polish, valve job, etc, but i can't afford the down time.

 

is this your first build?

if so, i'd suggest something at the 200-220whp limits to get the ball rolling, and then later building on that.

 

well, yeah it is my first build, i am not shooting for the upper limits, but i want to start in a good power range. yeah i think 200-220 is what i'll get without building th motor or putting a good tune on it. but the turbo im gunna get is 475 capable, so i want to be able to build the motor and keep the same setup. i doubt i will ever get to 475 on this motor or any motor. but i want something that i will ahve to build the motor before i have to worry about upgrading.

 

ok kool i get ya...

more often though, you're gonna see d15b vtec's maxing out at 220ish to the wheels until things start blowing.

may i suggest a vitara/tuner toys build

 

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Ok, you dont buy a turbo for expanding later. You buy the turbo to support the HP level you want. a 57 trim turbo is rated for around 420hp and 60 trim is around 460. Now this is their HP Rating, meaning the upper limits of their efficiency range. 420hp on a 57trim is getting outside the efficiency of the turbo and will require more psi than a turbo that has a proper efficiency range. This will eventually cause a premature failure of the turbo.

For 250-300hp look into a t3/t4e 50trim .48a/r or a Gt28r if you have alot of cash to throw around.

Set a HP goal and build your engine and turbo setup for that HP goal.


Also, since this is your daily driver its just more reason to build it properly. D-series are cheap why not buy another D-series block and build that block then just swap that block in your car. You may have to deck the head but that isnt much downtime.

 

yeah, i have been thinking, and i think im gunna pick up another long block and do the vitara build. what hp is that good for? i know it is a good setup, but how good? and that way i can get close to my 300 whp mark and still have a reliable motor for DD. does the vitara build work in a d15B vtec? i know there are some differences in rod length and stuff. help required.