crazy torque!
My setup has changed since (more boost) but I never posted my results.
This is a stock b18c1 with a SC61 (6.8psi) and a Precision AS1025 FMIC.

Blue is torque, Red is HP. Sorry for the crappy digital cam scan.
It IS possible to have matching TQ and HP on a honda motor! (236wtq, 240whp)
This is a stock b18c1 with a SC61 (6.8psi) and a Precision AS1025 FMIC.

Blue is torque, Red is HP. Sorry for the crappy digital cam scan.
It IS possible to have matching TQ and HP on a honda motor! (236wtq, 240whp)
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max rpm was only 7700. i always bounce off my rev limiter because i need a nice valvetrain to reach peak HP.
its in a crx too, with lensos... so hell yes its a blast to drive!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my setup is similar.
I have 311Whp @ 10psi and 300ft/lbs tq. B18C motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what i hope to get when i finish tuning for 10psi. might need some valve springs to rev up to peak hp though.
its in a crx too, with lensos... so hell yes its a blast to drive!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my setup is similar.
I have 311Whp @ 10psi and 300ft/lbs tq. B18C motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what i hope to get when i finish tuning for 10psi. might need some valve springs to rev up to peak hp though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock GSRs can rev to at least 8200-8300 safely, torque shouldn't be as high as hp on a honda...</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the torque and the HP curve should cross at 5252!!!!
Modified by MindEracer at 9:44 AM 3/8/2006
And the torque and the HP curve should cross at 5252!!!!
Modified by MindEracer at 9:44 AM 3/8/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MindEracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And the torque and the HP curve should cross at 5252!!!!
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you can see that in the pic? wow you have some good eyes
And the torque and the HP curve should cross at 5252!!!!
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you can see that in the pic? wow you have some good eyes
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ham »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you can see that in the pic? wow you have some good eyes</TD></TR></TABLE>
In every dyno the hp meats the tq at 5252
you can see that in the pic? wow you have some good eyes</TD></TR></TABLE>
In every dyno the hp meats the tq at 5252
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urbansi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In every dyno the hp meats the tq at 5252</TD></TR></TABLE> i cant believe no one caught that sooner...
In every dyno the hp meats the tq at 5252</TD></TR></TABLE> i cant believe no one caught that sooner...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">torque shouldn't be as high as hp on a honda...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urbansi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In every dyno the hp meats the tq at 5252</TD></TR></TABLE>
this isnt always the case...its a feature on the dyno software called forced scaling...
this graph looks like mad boost creep doesnt it???
In every dyno the hp meats the tq at 5252</TD></TR></TABLE>
this isnt always the case...its a feature on the dyno software called forced scaling...
this graph looks like mad boost creep doesnt it???
Similar hp and torque figures indicate quite of a bit of exhaust restriction up top, known as reversion.
Given the formula HP=torqueXRPM/5252. I calculate you should have ~368whp with that kind of torque at 8200rpm.
Given the formula HP=torqueXRPM/5252. I calculate you should have ~368whp with that kind of torque at 8200rpm.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unsivil_audio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Similar hp and torque figures indicate quite of a bit of exhaust restriction up top, known as reversion.
Given the formula HP=torqueXRPM/5252. I calculate you should have ~368whp with that kind of torque at 8200rpm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I only revved up to 7700 on the dyno, so I have more power waiting there. I thought you were supposed to use max tq rpm for the calculation... ?
HP=236X(5660)/5252 = 254.3
Given the formula HP=torqueXRPM/5252. I calculate you should have ~368whp with that kind of torque at 8200rpm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I only revved up to 7700 on the dyno, so I have more power waiting there. I thought you were supposed to use max tq rpm for the calculation... ?
HP=236X(5660)/5252 = 254.3
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where would my restriction be? I got a 3" downpipe and exhaust.
The only thing I can think of is the .48 turbine of my turbo, it may choke a bit up top but ITS A BLAST TO DRIVE DAILY!!! I used to have a .63 and I swapped it for more torqe and faster spool.
The only thing I can think of is the .48 turbine of my turbo, it may choke a bit up top but ITS A BLAST TO DRIVE DAILY!!! I used to have a .63 and I swapped it for more torqe and faster spool.
Here's the way I look at it...you made what, 254whp@7900?
Since its a formula we can reverse engineer it.
Torque=HP*5252/rpm
Torque=254*5252/7900
Torque=168wtrq
168wtrq@7900rpm, that means you came down ~68wtrq in ~2200rpms (from 5660) and since hp is all about carrying torque into the higher rpms, and your torque is falling off so bad, your gonna see similar hp and torque #'s the higher you rev it.
Since its a formula we can reverse engineer it.
Torque=HP*5252/rpm
Torque=254*5252/7900
Torque=168wtrq
168wtrq@7900rpm, that means you came down ~68wtrq in ~2200rpms (from 5660) and since hp is all about carrying torque into the higher rpms, and your torque is falling off so bad, your gonna see similar hp and torque #'s the higher you rev it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where would my restriction be? I got a 3" downpipe and exhaust.
The only thing I can think of is the .48 turbine of my turbo, it may choke a bit up top but ITS A BLAST TO DRIVE DAILY!!! I used to have a .63 and I swapped it for more torqe and faster spool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say the .48a/r is part of it, perhaps its your cams though. Thats probably what I would point my finger at right now on this guy's setup considering its a stock b18c1, also if he had revved it out he would've seen ~255whp.
Maybe someone a little bit more in the know will pipe in though.
The only thing I can think of is the .48 turbine of my turbo, it may choke a bit up top but ITS A BLAST TO DRIVE DAILY!!! I used to have a .63 and I swapped it for more torqe and faster spool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say the .48a/r is part of it, perhaps its your cams though. Thats probably what I would point my finger at right now on this guy's setup considering its a stock b18c1, also if he had revved it out he would've seen ~255whp.
Maybe someone a little bit more in the know will pipe in though.



