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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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So my friend and I like to talk about crazy ideas for what would be a fun project, and we thought of something, but don't know if it's possible. If someone where to put ITB's on their car, theoretically couldn't they then put a turbocharger on each of these throttle bodies? I am not sure about the details on either of these ideas, so I was just wondering. Thanks.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jakester9500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So my friend and I like to talk about crazy ideas for what would be a fun project, and we thought of something, but don't know if it's possible. If someone where to put ITB's on their car, theoretically couldn't they then put a turbocharger on each of these throttle bodies? I am not sure about the details on either of these ideas, so I was just wondering. Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you mean bolt a turbo to each one of the itb's? Because that is what it sounds like you are saying
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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yea, that's the idea. And we weren't thinking crazy boost either. Like 4-6psi per turbo. I know it would be an insanely expensive idea, I am just wondering if it feasable.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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first, consider how you will mount 4 turbo's to an exhaust manifold


now running a single turbo with itb's is another thing. and has been done. just ask tony the tiger.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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well i was thinking it would basically be like there were four engines. Each port on the exhaust side would basically be it's own manifold so it would provide a mounting location
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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you would need some REALLY small turbo's then
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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FTW!!!!


not quite a honda..
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FTW!!!!


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are those 4 turbo's or 8? talk about a plumbing nightmare.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Holy sexiness. It looks like an octopus.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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I saw this car a Good guys car show here in Iowa, its pretty hott
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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IMO, its really just overkill. i mean anything can be done, but you go ahead, spend all that money/time on the fabrication b/s and what not, and i'll save $5-$10k, make more power, with an easier setup/tune and overall less headache. sure its cool, and "wild" but in my eyes its just not practical, whatsoever. I have seen tonythetigers setup, and i really liked it, and im sure his throttle/boost response is awesome, especially (last time i saw) with the gt28rs, but in reality, like i said, i'd rather make more power with a simplererer setup with less headache and (some may argue) more reliability. just my 2 pennies.

im subscribed for more itb turbo setups (especially ones i havent seen)
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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yeah, thats why he said it was JUST AN IDEA!!


relax
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, thats why he said it was JUST AN IDEA!!


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haha, talking to me? dont tell me to relax, as i wasnt getting hyped up. I was just explaining my views and opinions. It obviously been shown, it HAS been done before, and CAN be done, with a large amount of custom fab work and more headaches than any one person should have to endure. The question is, is it worth it? (My) Answer: No.

Thanks, and have a nice day.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Toda or someone makes them for sr20det`s. You simply build a plenum before the itb`s. Search on the subject.... there are some threads with good info on this.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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My god that's the coolest **** I've ever seen.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are those 4 turbo's or 8? talk about a plumbing nightmare. </TD></TR></TABLE>

its 8 turbos, i think each one is only boosting like 4lbs tho but im not sure. i mean its not very practical at all and that one was done mainly for looks, show, and wow factor. it wasnt something that anyone had really seen done before, so why not do it on a 'pretty' old school car with an ls1? looks like they plumbed it pretty well too, so much damn room in that engine bay
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExrxK4Et9gU
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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for the small turbos, we were thinking of just pulling some from a junkyard off of saabs or volvos, but we did realize that it is a **** ton of money to do this, but you have to admit, if you say a honda with this done, you would **** yourself.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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I saw a turbo on ebay for ~$300 thats the size of a dollar bill.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

The problem with one turbo per cyl w/o any common plentum - when the valves close, your wastegate starts opening since it starts pressurising a fixed space much smaller than the cylinder. This will waste exhaust energy, meaning less power from a setup that has even a 1/4" tube connecting the turbos.

The other problems are inconsistencies between turbos, BOV reaction time, etc. I could come up with a list much longer list for deficiencies than benifits - because there's no real benifit from going with a single larger turbo on an ITB setup w/plenum.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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hmm... it can be done if you have the $$$ just lots of it.. but the thing is... a honda isnt 4 engine.. its one, 4 cylinders that work together as one.. 4 turbos? one for each cylinder eh? what if one cylinder get too much or not enough o2.. lots of things can go wrong.. are you going to run all 4 turbos into 1 intercooler? if you do whats the point? youll still get the same air flow towards the itbs for each one. might as well get 1 big turbo with mor psi going to the itb... and besides isnt it hard to tune with 1 turbo going to the itb already? try 4.....
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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hmm, those are good points.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jakester9500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i was thinking it would basically be like there were four engines. Each port on the exhaust side would basically be it's own manifold so it would provide a mounting location</TD></TR></TABLE>

You do realize that not all 4 cylinders fire at the same time, correct? And you do realize that it takes exhaust flow to spin a turbine, right? Constant, exhaust flow. Good, now that we got that out of the way: GO FOR IT DOOD! THAT'LL BE MAD TYTE, YO!
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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HOLY turbo batman
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Finest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You do realize that not all 4 cylinders fire at the same time, correct? And you do realize that it takes exhaust flow to spin a turbine, right? Constant, exhaust flow. Good, now that we got that out of the way: GO FOR IT DOOD! THAT'LL BE MAD TYTE, YO! </TD></TR></TABLE>

I do realize that they all dont fire at the same time. I am not planning on doing this, it was just a question as to whether or not this would be possible.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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i saw a honda done like this- the guy used 4 really small turbos and fed them directly into the itbs...

not sure where the pic is at.. last time i saw it the motor was on an engine stand so idk if it ever ran
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