so I've been looking into going turbo for awhile now for my 00' integra, I was wondering how much you guys with built motors and big turbos are spending because from what i've calculated out of my build it's looking at a good 13-15k, I want to have a fully built bottom end and heads and run a 3076r basically, I know it's kind of a vague question without knowing what parts i need but i'm aiming for a 450 whp build. i got about 8.5 grand to spend now so i wanna get this build started!

 

Let's see your parts list.

 

Exactly. there's no point to try and compare cost to see if you're "on par" or not.. Bottom line, its expensive.. Go with God on that, and you'll be fine

 

Let me know if any of these parts look ridiculous! I've kinda just built this parts list by lurking the forums lol.

Power goals: 425 whp on pump 91 gas.

Motor:
B18C1
Bored 84 mm block
Benson Sleeves
9:1 CP Pistons
ACL Bearings
ARP Head studs
Pauter or Manley connecting rods
Garrett GT3076R .82 A/R (this is all part of the synapse turbo kit)
Garrett Core Intercooler
Tial 44 mm wastegate
Tial 50 mm blow off valve
Edelbrock Victor X Manifold
Apexi WS2 80mm Universal Muffler
Warlboro 255 Fuel pump
Moroso Oil Pan
Hasport Motor Mounts
ID1000 Injectors
Golden Eagle Fuel Rail
Walboro 255 LPH fuel pump

Heads:
Skunk2 Tuner 1 Cams or ITR cams
Supertech SS nitride coated valves
Supertech Dual Valve Springs
Supertech Titanium Retainers
3 Angle valve job

Drivetrain:
ITR LSD
GSR Tranny

For ECU I was gonna go with Hondata S300...not sure if that's really necessary lol, and keep in mind my car is a LS and the reason that I'm going with a B18C is cause I need to keep my car running for transportation for most of the time so I'm going to have a buy a new block anyways...I was looking into buying a bare b18c block and building it from there

 

Why such a large bore? Won't that give you less room to work if something goes wrong?

 

Hm the reason that I chose a large bore was cause I wanted to maximize how much power I can pull out of 91 pump gas, I figure larger bore will help with that but correct me if i'm wrong lol

 

Everything looks fantastic except for the Victor X manifold. Tuner 1 cams are nice too, though the ITRs are fine if you have them. If you don't have the ITRs, don't bother, as a lot of fakes are out there. Easier to get some Tuner 1s

 

Why not, 84mm > 81mm when using aftermarket sleeves on a b18c1

 

Everything looks good for your goals. I wouldn't spend money on a valve job, run oem port work, simply have the vales seated properly & be done with it.

 

That won't help. You need a matching stroke to go with that bore to make any difference in torque or power. 3mm bore won't really do a whole lot.

Don't try to maximize 91 octane.. you know its water, the states of CA and AZ know its nothing but watered down fuel, so don't try and do that. get what you can out of the fuel on a lower boost pressure setup, then be prepared to use better fuel or some other way to resist knock an increase boost pressure.

 

Haha aight cool, I got a couple of questions maybe you guys could help me out with, in terms of swapping it out to a B18C would it be more worth it to just go with a B18B? I don't really know prices but I'm guessing B18C is more expensive and if I'm going with this build it's just gonna be a turbo engine anyways lol

2. and also will I need beefier axles??

3. since I'm going from a B18B to a B18C could I use the same engine wiring harness and same ECU?

4. just read ur response shodan, i was gonna just use the stock gsr crank and keep the same stroke...is that a bad idea? if it is then in that case maybe I should just keep my stock sleeves as they are and just have the rest of the bottom end built (like bearings,pistons,connecting rods)?

and am I missing anything obvious here...like ignition system and stuff or is everything on my list necessary for my build? I'm on a slight budget so I mostly just want to get the things that I need to run a proper build

 

The 84 vs 81 bore hp difference will be minimal or at least not worth the extra $. Keep stock sleeves for anything up to 550whp or 650whp strip ( good tune ofcourse). In reality upgraded piston and rods on the bottom end and stock gsr cams w/ upgraded valve spring and retainers will do 500 easy on that turbo setup and last. 8.5 k should get you a full build plus tune. It really doesn't take much to make 400's. You can also save money by buying used parts. Things like used turbo manifold are good as new when it is made by a good fabricator.

 

cool...as for the valves themselves are they necessary or could I just use stock heads (like stock valves etc) with the tuner 1's?

 

What's wrong with the Victor X manifold?

 

See my responses in BOLD

 

I must admit, he didn't list full power goals, he's using a GT3076R, I suspect its under 525whp, and wanted plenty of midrange for his goal. This means that he wants a manifold that will maximize his use of the midrange portion of the powerband from 4000rpms-7000rpms. This means that the Skunk2 or Performer X (Edlebrock) would be more for his application than some Victor X manifold.

 

thanks!