This is great! I love tests like these. The proof is in the pudding....Thanks for sharing.

 

Lol poor map sensor's.
The ebay one never seen it coming...

 

Great Test john!

 

I don't doubt cheap knock off sensors are not as good a quality but how many guys are running 50 PSI?

 

Omni power tests their sensors at 120 psi.

Even a stock NA honda would destroy the ebay sensor within a day due to vibration alone!

The sensor is designed to read 43 psi.
You don't think it should be tested to atleast 50 psi?
Thats like saying, your honda civic's tires are rated to 120 mph & they shouldn't be tested at 130 mph.

 

And he's not referring to boost pressure.

 

If a sensor is designed and rated to 43 PSI and it failed at 50 PSI wouldn't that be considered normal? You exceeded maximum rating by 21.5%.

Look I'm the last person to use ebay garbage for important pieces where it counts but in all fairness exceeding it's rating and then saying oh look it failed is not really a fair test.

My comment of how many people run 50 PSI was because the majority of guys run less than 20 PSI especially on cheap builds that would use ebay parts. My point was they won't come anywhere close to the 43 PSI rating.

 

The ebay sensor is garbage regardless of pressure levels it would be used at.
The sensor would have failed on a car without positive manifold pressure due to vibration alone....

Your math is wrong. 43 psi + 16% = 49.88 psi
Just because a sensor's voltage scale is up to 43 psi doesn't mean it should fail at 50 psi.

If you really want to push the issue I will be glad to make another video of a brand new ebay knock off sensor being shaken by hand and reading all over the place because the internal sensor is bouncing around inside of the plastic housing.

The moral of this post is to show you that when it comes to a map sensor, stick to a sensor with a warranty that is assembled in the USA like a Omni Power or Hondata map sensor.

 

No doubt. No one argues that point.

 

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no need to make another video, i think your point got across to the people who understand it.

Why do people sleeve blocks and make them 1000whp capable when they only make 400?.. *shrugS*

 

Mtber
That's why I'm running the omni 3 bar map sensor

 

Pretty common practice for something to be rated lower then its its capable of. An example is a 25 ton overhead crane. Id hate to think on a bad day the brakes are gonna give out at 50001 lbs. (Actually they'll go a good bit over lol).

 

So if you take your 25 ton crane and lift 30 tons and the cable snaps it's a POS crane that no one should buy? Again I'm not disputing the poor quality of ebay knock off parts. All I pointed out was pushing the part past it's rated specs by 20 some percent and then pointing out it failed is a pretty lame way of trying to prove the point. One would expect a product to fail when pushed past rated specs.

 

But that's the beauty of Honda in general. They ALWAYS push their parts "past specs". They overengineer EVERYTHING. You name one other manufacturer that can use their over-the-counter parts and create hp with the same internals over 150% over their normal use AND STILL RUN EFFECTIVELY..

ARP is another example. Do you honestly think we're going to do over 150% of the tensile strength these were originally made for with our silly daily driven boosted cars? What happened to overengineering? or getting it done in a way that you don't expect it to fail? I'm sorry Malcolm, i honestly think you keep your standards too low sometimes inside expectations. Perhaps its a domestic car thing, perhaps its just your experience over the years where you don't expect things to go past the "normal" parameters.

This is why Japanese models for decades have dominated and only because of their own greed have they lost their edge and the American counterpart has finally caught up.. I dunno.. perhaps I'm to inebriated right now.

 

Toyota

 

15 years ago, sure... Now I'd never get one. Too many TSBs and recalls with horribly boring platforms outside of the new Scion coupe

 

hey hey, i work for toyota on the manufacturing side. we dont have as many recalls as you may think. but we can get into that some other time...

 

I had a friend with a newer tundra, frame was rotten.. It snapped in half while he was towing his S15

 

do you have an ebay map?

 

Find that hard to believe
We did have rust issues on older frames I will agree but it has been addressed. The elements of Mother Nature is a bish

 

I get what you're saying but since you ask the 03 and 04 Mustang Cobras. Came from the factory with forged motors with a blower. They will make more than 150% their power and still run like bone stock.

LOL any pics of his truck snapped in half? I agree with post above, hard to believe. I have an 05 double cab myself which has seen plenty of snow and salt and is still solid and in good shape.

Nope.

 

As it was designed to use a blower as it was engineered from FORD. The Honda engines were not, and yet they can STILL hold over 150% due to overengineering to work with a turbocharger.

Simply for clarity of our discussion. Not trying to cause any trouble here.

 

You've experienced some crazy **** lol.

 

The pics are somewhere, Toyota said it was one of the worst cases that they had seen


And every part, no matter what it is, is tested beyond its rated limit, its called the failure point.., that's why things have a usage limit, which is normally far enough below the failure point to insure reliable, long term usage.