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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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changed out my headgasket but im still overheating.. what can it be? does an ARC 1.3 cap do anything. im turbo. radiator fluid comes out resevoir. dunno what else to do. my when it starts to overheat my heater stops blowing hot air. weird...
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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called air in the system, try filling it up with fluid or get a new radiator that is not leaking
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DrVtec99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">called air in the system, try filling it up with fluid or get a new radiator that is not leaking</TD></TR></TABLE>

i also bled it and my radiator is not leaking.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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it probably has an air pocket around the sleeves.... how did you bleed the system?

It could also be a bad thermostat, have you checked that?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it probably has an air pocket around the sleeves.... how did you bleed the system?

It could also be a bad thermostat, have you checked that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i bled it through that small thingy by the head you open it and let the air out.. thermo i changed out already also. can the head be warped? cuz before i changed out the hg my car was overheating alot and i was still driving it.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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I put my money on a Air pocket...... take it to a shop and get them to pressure bleed it (I think thats what its called) and I bet the problem will go away
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I put my money on a Air pocket...... take it to a shop and get them to pressure bleed it (I think thats what its called) and I bet the problem will go away </TD></TR></TABLE>

air pocket? whats that? how much will that cost me? so no warped head?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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air is trapped around the sleeves causing a "air pocket" and it shouldnt cost that much... maybe $25 or so, but also depends on the shop
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">air is trapped around the sleeves causing a "air pocket" and it shouldnt cost that much... maybe $25 or so, but also depends on the shop</TD></TR></TABLE>

so the arc 1.3 cap doesnt have anything to do w/ it?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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probably not
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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Your head maybe warped.On my 4 door turbo,I resurfaced it and bought a new head gasket and it solved the problem.But before you do that,First change the radiator cap because the spring inside the cap becomes weak over time and it sometimes doesnt hold the pressure and it will blow to the overflow tank.Good Luck
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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damn.. my hg is brand new if i take out the head would i be able to use the hg over agian?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:04 AM
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before you go and rip apart your motor again.... I would suggest trying to take things out of the question, like change your rad cap... do what I told you about a pressure bleeding the system to make sure there are no air pockets around the sleeves.... if all that checks out and it is still doing it then I would get the head resurfaced
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before you go and rip apart your motor again.... I would suggest trying to take things out of the question, like change your rad cap... do what I told you about a pressure bleeding the system to make sure there are no air pockets around the sleeves.... if all that checks out and it is still doing it then I would get the head resurfaced</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh yea i did change the cap.. i put a stock on in and it seems that it over heats faster w/ the cap than the arc one.. so i put the arc one back on so weird..
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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sounds like you have a warped mating surface.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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so i have to resurface?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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not to sound like a dick but do you not listen to anyone????

take the damn thing and make sure its not a air pocket.... i bet you would feel pretty stupid if you spent the money to have it resurfaced and it was a air pocket the whole time causing your problem
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Can we get some information before we start making suggestions? What engine is this, for starters? Do you have ARPs? What made you think your head gasket was bad in the first place? Did you get the mating surfaces measured before you put the new head gasket on?

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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try jacking up the front of the car and taking off the rad. cap and letting it idle till it gets up to temp and see if you can get rid of any air pockets in the cooling system. i have seen this cause many a cooling problem. try this before you take the head back off
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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AIR in the system can be a pain in the ***...

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can we get some information before we start making suggestions? What engine is this, for starters? Do you have ARPs? What made you think your head gasket was bad in the first place? Did you get the mating surfaces measured before you put the new head gasket on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

d16z6, i have stock studs, cuz it was overheating alot, no
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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So did you check to see if you had an air pocket yet? I had one once, it was PITA to get out of the system... Thought my thermostat had stuck...
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Do you have a blockguard? I had some overheating issues at the track before and i could never figure out what it was. When i went to rebuild my motor and took my head off, i found whoever had the motor before me had installed a block guard.So i took that pos out and havnt had any overheating issues since.. Also, take the rad. cap off and let it idle up to temp, it should get rid of most of the air.Squeeze the upper rad. a few times so it will get rid of the air pocket in the hose.Has the thermostat ever been changed?Oh and autoparts stores thermostats dont work worth a crap you need to use genuine Honda.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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you say the coolant goes into the res... whats the gauge say, like many other have suggested it could just be the rad cap not holding the pressure its suposed to.

if the gauge is reading above normal it could be air.


im throwing this out there for some info. i had an overheating problem and i went through : head, 2 hg's, 2 thermostats, blow lines out. it ended up it was the water pump, i had been running water during the summer months and the water had corroded my water pump and left these little rust dimples on the impeller. i believe the water pump was cavitating and causing an overheating isssue.

replaced pump, fine ever since. (just something to think about it, if it isnt air or rad cap)

gl
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luvs2spooge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d16z6, i have stock studs, cuz it was overheating alot, no</TD></TR></TABLE>

How many pounds of boost? 10 : 1 your head is lifting because you're running stock headbolts. It would certainly be one explanation for your current issues.

Also, you lose heat when you overheat like this because coolant is being pushed out of your cooling system before it can get to your heater core. No fluid = no heat. This has to be a MAJOR displacement of fluid, which is why my vote goes to head lifting.

You running 8+ pounds, perchance?
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