Hi !! I was thinking about reducing my under hood temp. since my old cf hood turned white lol but I dont want to wrap my Lovefab SST...

Is it true that a good ceramic coating will give you some whp by reducing the under hood temp. by keeping the energy and the heat in the manifold ? Well I cant belive that it will give me 20 whp but Im also trying to maximize my engine whp at 15 psi so it could maybe give me a little gain but the main reason would be the under hood temp.

I would also send my turbine at the same time.

I just need your opinion if it worth the $ ( around 135 US for the manifold and the turbine ) not too bad

Take a look here at the end of the page :

http://www.performancecoatings.com/benefitdata.htm

thanks and leave me your opinion

 

why not just wrap the manifold with exhaust wrap brah? Is it because of how it looks?

I think 1/8" thick exhaust wrap will do better than a miniscule layer of ceramic. I know ceramic should help, but I dont think it will do the trick like the exhaust wrap

 

well mainly because the wrap will deteriorate the manifold cuz it retain the humidity, I do not have the confirmation of this but most people think this way....

did you saw my link ?? the temperature chart at the bottom of the page ?

oh btw I wrapped my DP last summer and the wrapping is all cracked and it would not last another summer so I cant imagine on a manifold.

 

I was going to wrap my DP and dump tube but I read a little while ago that insulating all that heat in the steel will weaken it.

 

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I'm not sure if you can coat a mani thats been heated already... but I was told by a few people that do the coatings that it's best to do it before it's been used...

I coated my mani and turbo... hoping to see good underhood temps, but if not it still looks bad ***

I was about to wrap my DP... but yours didn't last a summer huh? which wrap did you use (where from)?

 

They sell a silicone spray that you can spray on the wrap so it does not retain as much moisture, but I personally wouldn't wrap the manifold. Downpipe is another story....I think that how long the DP will last wrapped kinda depends on where you live. Here in Florida, the weather isn't too bad all year long so it will most likely last longer. Up north though, the salt and bad roads ruin ****.

I have my mani and turbine section ceramic coated, I have not ran the car yet so I don't know how the temps will be. I "heard" that the jacket thingy for the turbo works much better.

 

I doubt those HP correntions are accurate. I took my stuff there, (they are local to me) and they wanted a grip!! Over $330 for my DP, dumptube, manifold and turbine housing. Seems a little steep to me. I do have a wrapped header on my daily driver, been like that for over a year and it is still fine. I am in WA so we get all the elements, no complaints here other than it is dirty.

 

Actually, I've found the High heat ceramic coatings very beneficial to the components used to retain thermal efficiency, low engine temperatures, and a long lasting finish provided that they use the correct combination of chemicals in the coating. I've also found that results are best when coated BEFORE the components see any heat. I even give the coating as an option when I configure turbochargers for others..

From Manifolds:




Before


After


To turbos:

Before



AFTER

REAR





FRONT

 

Are there other kinds of finnish besides the black powercoat look and the chrome look? I love the look of raw stainless steel and hate to cover it up but I probably will anyways in the name of performance.

 

I have this color right now and can order, silvers, dark grays, flat white, flat blue, bright aluminium color and lots more for exhaust/turbo coatings. It does suck to cover up stainless, but every little bit you do adds up to a faster/better car.




Modified by Bailhatch at 8:11 AM 2/17/2005

 

Why not just get some reflective foil for your hood if you don't want to cover the manifold? You're not going to gain any appreciable whp from coating it, so you might as well just make it cheap and effective.

 

theshodan, I see my mani in one of those pics (black coated after pic)

anyway, heat wrap kinda does the same thing no? but doesn't wrap work different then the foil stuff? I'm pretty sure you can't wrap a hot *** mani with the foam foil stuff for under the hood... could be wrong.

 

My manifold and turbine housing and downpipe were done 3 years ago and they look brand new. And when the car is warm they are alot cooler u can put ur hand real close without felling alot of heat

 

thanks for all the reply, price seem to be good, he charged me 100$ for the manifold with the Titanium satin finish.

Thanks for the reply JDMCRX thats what I wanted to hear !

 

Shodan, do you sell turbos with the coating on it?

 

i coated my manifold and exhaust housing, after having it coated its a noticable temp drop under hood

 

yup, on the turbo manis I have done you can actually touch it for a second, even after boosting. The surface and part temps are really cut down a lot. I need to get one of those infrared thermometers...

 

well it has been proven so I dont see why it would not work. Its also really good for a turbo car to keep the heat inside the manifold and the turbine I think... I readed somewhere that the heat and the energy in the turbine will help the spoolin time... not just the flow.

 

Yes, TheShodan does sell coated turbos. I recommend doing business with him. Here's the on I got from him, black on both sides.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My manifold and turbine housing and downpipe were done 3 years ago and they look brand new. And when the car is warm they are alot cooler u can put ur hand real close without felling alot of heat</TD></TR></TABLE>

Glad to see those parts are still working out. These pieces he bought from me a long time ago and were coated by Jet Hot with their High Temp black coating.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Shodan, do you sell turbos with the coating on it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. I do. I used to use the foil wrap and hood wraps back 7 years ago before these were available. Sure they were a bit cheap, but they used to have sections peel off over time and fall into the bay or could hang loose over a moving part.

I've also found that wrap does NOTHING to help with a bit more thermal efficiency to the turbos and manifolds. It doesn't make XXXwhp in addition to what you have, but the point is to make it a bit safer to get around the engine bay, look great for years to come, and still provide a bit of thermal efficiency in the large scheme of things.

Just because its cheap doesn't mean it needs to be done...

Turbosi03: I had a ton of pics, and you're seem to just pop up... Glad you like it.

 

how can I not like it... just look how beautiful she is!



thats right I'm a pic *****!

I havent ran it yet, but I found it very difficult to scratch off and it looks great...

I say the coatings are worth every peny

 

I have my SST coated by Poly Dyn and it is thick! I do not expect it to flake or crack anytime soon! They coated mine inside and out. The inside is not totally coated but it is enough.

 

I used this stuff:

http://www.caswellplating.com/...haust

Sprayed it on with an air brush, baked it with a B16. It's not as scratch resistant as the Performance Coatings ceramic, which I have on my turbine housing, but it is a great heat barrier, no heat damage to the CF hood and I can put my hand right next to the manifold after a dyno pull without any discomfort.