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Old 09-08-2002, 10:00 AM
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Cams

I have a NA cam currently in field testing stage. Dyno and track results will come soon.

Turbo cams will also be developed.


Springs

HondaSaver B-Series Vtec springs.

Here are the specs:

Material: Chrome-Vanadium Alloy Steel.
Design: Linear Rate, High Lift Capacity, Self-Dampening Interfence with Inner Spring.
Prep: Shot-Peened and Heat Set for maxium durability
Pressure Installed: 80lbs at 1.320" - Good for keeping valves from being blown off their seats in FI apps.
Pressure 12.5mm: 265lbs at 12.5mm lift. Plenty of pressure to track the most aggressive cams like my cams.
Coil Bind: At 13mm lift as measured with both top and bottom retainers installed. Inner spring binds at 13mm lift although Outer spring can handle up to 14.5mm lift if used by itself.

Price: $175 shipped. GUARANTEED FOR LIFE against breakage and loss of pressure.

Note: I do not reccommend Ti retainers for street useasge as the Ti alloy contains aluminum and may wear and lose spring pressure, or retainer failure.


Thanks people.





Pic: Close Up of Outers. HS v. Stock - Careful. Very large file.

For those who have viewed the HS v. Stock Outers pic, note that the HS outer spring has a thicker wire diameter and one less coil than stock. You can also see the textured surface from the shot-peening process.


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Old 09-08-2002, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)

whats maximum lift at coil bind on these things?
Old 09-08-2002, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)

on the Ti retainers? i didnt know that. I have been using Ti retainers for 4 yrs/100K+ miles on my SOHC and never had a problem. Was revving the thing to 8K all the time too and racing alot.

I know the springs would lose its pressure after awhile, so does it mean the retainers are helping in the wear and tear?

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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)

do u guareentee them to a certain rpm?
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anything for f or h series engines
Old 09-08-2002, 01:29 PM
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SGT. Please see edited top post for your question.

Exospeed. That's cool that you have no problem with your Ti retainers. If they do wear though the installed length will be longer and a bit of spring pressure will be lost.

Howitt. Guaranteed with no RPM limits. Just don't hit them with a hammer to get warranty service.


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anything for f or h series engines
These springs can be used for the H22.
Old 09-08-2002, 01:44 PM
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damn u hondasaver for ur horrible timing! i just got a full valvetrain ahhhhh.
jk i love hondasaver but why not 2 weeks ago!?
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Just contact me. I will help you with this.
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What company manufactures them?
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at what level of performance would you call these a necessity?
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my guess would be anytime you wanna take your redline over stock..... am i right?
Safty first cause a new head is expensive
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What company manufactures them?
They are made by the same OE that supplies Crane.
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damn, once again us poor h23a owners get left in the cold.


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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (symba)

damn, once again us poor h23a owners get left in the cold.
Portflow was able to put dual valve springs and ti retainers on my h23 head by using ls spring bases.
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I'll have to remember that, thanks for the info
Old 09-08-2002, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (symba)

so these springs are good for high revs and no valve float?


Why didn't you go dual springs? So, with these springs, I can rev to 9500 safely without worrying about my valves floating?
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ok.. im poor again ! when i order these.. hehehe which i wanta order... very soon..

as soon as the turbo cam's are finished.. ill get some of those and the springs.. save on shiping !!


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my guess would be anytime you wanna take your redline over stock..... am i right?
Safty first cause a new head is expensive
You will want to run springs like this when you do the following:

1) Boost more than 15lbs
2) Run a lightened flywheel
3) Run aggressive cams
4) Run no rev-limiter
5) And of course higher rev limits.

Springs will easily handle 9,500 rpms.
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come 2 think of it.. ill take a set now.. !
if you can ship them with my mainfold.. !!!

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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)

any honda saver valves and retainers???

i'm lookin to upgrade the whole valvetrain not right now though but in the future
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Default Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)

Cool I may order a set from ya.. so with stock retainers your saying it will easily hold 9500 right?
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so nothing for a f22 or a h23 come on rocket hook us up
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They sound to be a pretty good spring, I might have to comp me a set>

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are they guarenteed to around 13k rpm? iv contacted ferrea and i forgot exactly what the rpm was... i think 11800 or 12k they said was the limit on their springs
I guarantee them period. They fit really tight on stock retainers and most other retainers. It is VERY important to have the springs as tight as possible on the retainer. This prevents the spring from wiggling. This alone will increase your rev range. This is very important as not having the spring tight on the retainer can lead to failure of your springs regardless of quality.

Exact rpm depends on other factors than just red line. Basically the more power you are making with the same number of cylinders you are going to need better springs regardless of redline.


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