Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver
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Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver
Cams
I have a NA cam currently in field testing stage. Dyno and track results will come soon.
Turbo cams will also be developed.
Springs
HondaSaver B-Series Vtec springs.
Here are the specs:
Material: Chrome-Vanadium Alloy Steel.
Design: Linear Rate, High Lift Capacity, Self-Dampening Interfence with Inner Spring.
Prep: Shot-Peened and Heat Set for maxium durability
Pressure Installed: 80lbs at 1.320" - Good for keeping valves from being blown off their seats in FI apps.
Pressure 12.5mm: 265lbs at 12.5mm lift. Plenty of pressure to track the most aggressive cams like my cams.
Coil Bind: At 13mm lift as measured with both top and bottom retainers installed. Inner spring binds at 13mm lift although Outer spring can handle up to 14.5mm lift if used by itself.
Price: $175 shipped. GUARANTEED FOR LIFE against breakage and loss of pressure.
Note: I do not reccommend Ti retainers for street useasge as the Ti alloy contains aluminum and may wear and lose spring pressure, or retainer failure.
Thanks people.
Pic: Close Up of Outers. HS v. Stock - Careful. Very large file.
For those who have viewed the HS v. Stock Outers pic, note that the HS outer spring has a thicker wire diameter and one less coil than stock. You can also see the textured surface from the shot-peening process.
[Modified by Rocket, 8:34 PM 9/9/2002]
I have a NA cam currently in field testing stage. Dyno and track results will come soon.
Turbo cams will also be developed.
Springs
HondaSaver B-Series Vtec springs.
Here are the specs:
Material: Chrome-Vanadium Alloy Steel.
Design: Linear Rate, High Lift Capacity, Self-Dampening Interfence with Inner Spring.
Prep: Shot-Peened and Heat Set for maxium durability
Pressure Installed: 80lbs at 1.320" - Good for keeping valves from being blown off their seats in FI apps.
Pressure 12.5mm: 265lbs at 12.5mm lift. Plenty of pressure to track the most aggressive cams like my cams.
Coil Bind: At 13mm lift as measured with both top and bottom retainers installed. Inner spring binds at 13mm lift although Outer spring can handle up to 14.5mm lift if used by itself.
Price: $175 shipped. GUARANTEED FOR LIFE against breakage and loss of pressure.
Note: I do not reccommend Ti retainers for street useasge as the Ti alloy contains aluminum and may wear and lose spring pressure, or retainer failure.
Thanks people.
Pic: Close Up of Outers. HS v. Stock - Careful. Very large file.
For those who have viewed the HS v. Stock Outers pic, note that the HS outer spring has a thicker wire diameter and one less coil than stock. You can also see the textured surface from the shot-peening process.
[Modified by Rocket, 8:34 PM 9/9/2002]
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)
on the Ti retainers? i didnt know that. I have been using Ti retainers for 4 yrs/100K+ miles on my SOHC and never had a problem. Was revving the thing to 8K all the time too and racing alot.
I know the springs would lose its pressure after awhile, so does it mean the retainers are helping in the wear and tear?
I know the springs would lose its pressure after awhile, so does it mean the retainers are helping in the wear and tear?
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Howitt)
SGT. Please see edited top post for your question.
Exospeed. That's cool that you have no problem with your Ti retainers. If they do wear though the installed length will be longer and a bit of spring pressure will be lost.
Howitt. Guaranteed with no RPM limits. Just don't hit them with a hammer to get warranty service.
[Modified by Rocket, 10:34 PM 9/8/2002]
Exospeed. That's cool that you have no problem with your Ti retainers. If they do wear though the installed length will be longer and a bit of spring pressure will be lost.
Howitt. Guaranteed with no RPM limits. Just don't hit them with a hammer to get warranty service.
[Modified by Rocket, 10:34 PM 9/8/2002]
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)
damn u hondasaver for ur horrible timing! i just got a full valvetrain ahhhhh.
jk i love hondasaver but why not 2 weeks ago!?
jk i love hondasaver but why not 2 weeks ago!?
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (downpipe)
my guess would be anytime you wanna take your redline over stock..... am i right?
Safty first cause a new head is expensive
Safty first cause a new head is expensive
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (symba)
damn, once again us poor h23a owners get left in the cold.
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (paul_vang)
ok.. im poor again ! when i order these.. hehehe which i wanta order... very soon..
as soon as the turbo cam's are finished.. ill get some of those and the springs.. save on shiping !!
Regards James
as soon as the turbo cam's are finished.. ill get some of those and the springs.. save on shiping !!
Regards James
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (turboex)
my guess would be anytime you wanna take your redline over stock..... am i right?
Safty first cause a new head is expensive
Safty first cause a new head is expensive
1) Boost more than 15lbs
2) Run a lightened flywheel
3) Run aggressive cams
4) Run no rev-limiter
5) And of course higher rev limits.
Springs will easily handle 9,500 rpms.
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)
come 2 think of it.. ill take a set now.. !
if you can ship them with my mainfold.. !!!
Regards James
if you can ship them with my mainfold.. !!!
Regards James
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (Rocket)
any honda saver valves and retainers???
i'm lookin to upgrade the whole valvetrain not right now though but in the future
i'm lookin to upgrade the whole valvetrain not right now though but in the future
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Re: Cams and Valvetrain - HondaSaver (ek9t)
are they guarenteed to around 13k rpm? iv contacted ferrea and i forgot exactly what the rpm was... i think 11800 or 12k they said was the limit on their springs
Exact rpm depends on other factors than just red line. Basically the more power you are making with the same number of cylinders you are going to need better springs regardless of redline.
[Modified by Rocket, 12:09 AM 9/10/2002]