Bypass ICM without MSD

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:35 PM
  #26  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

That's why we stuck with the mallory system. I even stayed with the same plugs, nothing was "taken over" only amplified for better spark.

What do you think we did before M&W in the 90s and early 2001-2005? Just sat there to wait for the Aussies to come along and save us? Many ignition systems are even more complicated than Honda setups, and sometimes, the simple just works. ;-)
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:38 PM
  #27  
jetspeedz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 1
From: Cali
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Well i can tell you what i did back in the mid 90's, we used MSD lol and that was the thing to have back then. Its been over 10 years and now coming back into this again i feel i missed a boat load.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:45 PM
  #28  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Not really. Just that M&W came into the Honda world. Many high HP Subaru setups use either AEM CDI ignition or HKS Twin Power for the extra spark. So don't think you're alone here, just many ways to skin a cat is all.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2010 | 09:46 PM
  #29  
jetspeedz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 1
From: Cali
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

I see, good info, funny thing is my buddy was telling me to go with HKS and he has a Supra and loves that system.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:08 AM
  #30  
batboyvaj's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
From: st paul, mn
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

the mallory box should take alot of load off the icm. my icm didn't get hot like it use to either. i just wanted to simplify my ign system withouth spending an arm and a leg.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:57 PM
  #31  
Turbo-LS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,903
Likes: 1
From: South, Texas
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Just ordered my self a summit digital box. already have a msd blaster ss coil. hey shodan if i open up the gaps whats the benefit? im currently running like .022 because the msd coil on stock ignition was weak and had blow out. will i get a better burn with a larger gap?
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 06:59 PM
  #32  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

I pretty much kept the gap at about .028.. .022 is pretty close, which is the best way to wear down your plugs pre-maturely.

You'll get a better burn with the slightly larger gap, longer spark life, and with the coil better operation. Remember, the ICM was stressed with that blaster coil. Both box and coil are best to use.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 09:34 PM
  #33  
jetspeedz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 1
From: Cali
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Agree but i think the higher you go in hp the tighter the gap usually gets and plugs get replaced often. I went from .028 to .019 and it did much better but probably due to msd on the dyno
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 03:29 AM
  #34  
Turbo-LS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,903
Likes: 1
From: South, Texas
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

yeah that what i figured. i knew the ignitor was being stressed with just the msd coil thats why i had to gap them way down but i didnt have a vtec coil so thats what i had laying around when i went vtec. As far as sprak plug wear i havent had any issues. I usually get about 20k miles on a set of bkr7e's which i dont think is bad at al for a standard copper plug
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 05:48 AM
  #35  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Yep.. You seem to be pretty much on target. I've been able to squeeze about 30K, but that's because I've been driving the car a bit more "maturely" as of late
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 02:54 PM
  #36  
Turbo-LS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,903
Likes: 1
From: South, Texas
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

yeah i dont really hamer on my car. i drive it like i drive my elantra slow and steady, just once and a while when the highway is clear of cars ill open it up quick and bring it back down to 65
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 12:16 PM
  #37  
Turbo-LS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,903
Likes: 1
From: South, Texas
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

NM im a retard. you run the "points" white wir to the negative of the coil wires and cap the positive coil wire in the dizzy. fired right up after my dizzy beloowed smoke. imy positive wire grounded out and looked like the smoke came from the ignitior. it was pretty bad but the car still runs now and drive just fine and boost just fine too. Send It!

Last edited by Turbo-LS; Jun 11, 2010 at 02:27 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 02:39 PM
  #38  
mike93eh2's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,009
Likes: 0
From: missouri
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

how about getting rid of the distributor all together? well youll still need it on there right now because of the crank sensors in it still need to be operational..

http://en.car-hacker.net/node/12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9lQNsQiXL0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXkrQLmBUtU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9cyo...eature=related
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 03:47 PM
  #39  
Turbo-LS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,903
Likes: 1
From: South, Texas
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Did that COp ever get developed and purchaseable?
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 06:02 PM
  #40  
mike93eh2's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,009
Likes: 0
From: missouri
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
Did that COp ever get developed and purchaseable?

its always been purchasable straight through them. email them.. they just havent gotten any distributors here in the states yet.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2010 | 12:37 AM
  #41  
Turbo-LS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,903
Likes: 1
From: South, Texas
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

well **** ill distribute them lol if they will give me stock kits without money up front cause im a broke *** lol
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:02 PM
  #42  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
well **** ill distribute them lol if they will give me stock kits without money up front cause im a broke *** lol
Hehe. Not gonna happen that wayGood try though.. ;-)
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:23 PM
  #43  
jetspeedz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 1
From: Cali
Default Re: Bypass ICM without MSD

just order m&w kit from T1 and problem solved.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ja20_eg
Engine Management and Tuning
8
Jan 26, 2011 04:23 PM
NitrousB.I.G.
Tech / Misc
5
Dec 22, 2004 07:06 PM
ridexstraight
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
4
Nov 15, 2004 05:21 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:52 PM.