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Old 02-22-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Built B18A soon to be turbocharged, any pointers?

Hey guys, it is getting close to the time when my CRX is going to be breathing some fire finally LOL

Just to give you an idea of what the platform is, here are the things I have already taken care of so far:

B18A non-OBD
* port and polish
* ferrea valves
* ARP head studs
* crane springs and retainers
* AEM cam gears
* bored, darton sleeves and honing
* JE pistons
* scat rods
* polished crank
* seals, SCE gaskets, oil pumps etc
* stock cams

Here is where I am a little lost. What your guys experiences are with a non-OBD turbo setup? And then the big question... What would you guys recommend for a CRX that is almost entirely highway driven? The drive is to work and back 5 days a week, only 15 miles. I honestly don't do a whole lot of other driving, I try to limit the CRX's road time. Also I have a Ford truck that I can drive if need be (ie dates with girls, etc LOL) so I am not concerned with driving a punishing ride at all.

What is your take on these possibilities for the B18A? Also what kind of engine speeds do you think they will need before full boost is reached on my B18A? I am shooting for anything around 4000 to 4300 rpms or so; but I will be willing to do whatever gives a good linear curve really, nothing spiking at like 5500 or anything. At least for now.

> Precision SC61 E .76 trim
> Precision SC34
> T3/T4 57trim 60/63 with stage III wheel
> T3/T4 50 trim .48 a/r

* Is there any other good options that you feel I have left out?

I will save and scrape together whatever money it takes to get things done right. So on that note, if you guys were in my shoes, what would you do about the intake manifold? Are the gains worth it? Should I get an aftermarket manifold for the B18A? If so, what is the best choice, in your opinion? Also, to the people that have switched from an OEM manifold, what kind of gains did you guys acquire?

Thanks in advance guys, I really appreciate any feedback!


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wen i had a an integra i was so close to completeing my turbo but i totaled it. anyways i believe patdemps talks about manifolds on his gsr-t, just search. im running a precision sc34 and i love it.
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Default Re: Built B18A soon to be turbocharged, any pointers? (jonny05)

Thanks for the reply, I added it to my list.
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You're building the head and block but staying with stock cams? how about a nice set of turbo cams? how much power you looking to make?

I had kind of an OT question for you too. When do you expect this built B18-T to be up and running? Maybe if you get it up and running before I get my B18C block built you can give me a demo of how fast it is hehehe. A week or two ago I thought about getting a spare B18a and building the crap out of that instead of my B18C to save money.
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Default Re: Built B18A soon to be turbocharged, any pointers? (BlueShadow)

That was another question I forgot to ask... the cams. I just put that on the list because I don't have a replacement for them yet. What is your guy's experience with turbo cams? Which were you guys using? When I searched on here, I mostly found guys that are using stock ones so far.

I am not to sure on an exact amount of power that I want to make. My ultimate goal is to be able to hit 12's, and without having to worry about anything being destroyed; that is why I have spent almost every paycheck on getting this thing ready.

I hope to have it turbo'ed by this summer. So where are you at? When it is finally done, I'll give you a ride lol Yeah I actually have 2 LS engines. One I used a month or so ago to pass smog, and the 2nd one is the one that I am talking about in this thread (the built-for-turbo one).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX_1.8T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am not to sure on an exact amount of power that I want to make. My ultimate goal is to be able to hit 12's, and without having to worry about anything being destroyed; that is why I have spent almost every paycheck on getting this thing ready.

I hope to have it turbo'ed by this summer. So where are you at? When it is finally done, I'll give you a ride lol Yeah I actually have 2 LS engines. One I used a month or so ago to pass smog, and the 2nd one is the one that I am talking about in this thread (the built-for-turbo one).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry I cant help you with the cams question. Your setup sounded pretty serious so I thought that maybe you would want to look into a cam upgrade.

I'm located about 20 minutes south of Sac. I might end up getting my turbo installed by the middle of next month, so I'll probably be boosted before you hehehe. However I'm only gonna be running 6-7 PSI which is probably around 230-250 WHP. I just hope that my work wont interfere with my project too much.
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Anyone else have any input on anything or on the cams?
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A set of Crower 402-T's are cheap and you will see BIG gains from them. I would run the 402-T's and the SC34.
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Default Re: Built B18A soon to be turbocharged, any pointers? (turboEGhatch)

Ok, I will definetely get those Crower 402-T cams. After reading several threads regarding the SC34, I am almost 100% positive that is what I am going to end up getting. So that brings me to my next question; what type of manifold do would you use for daily driving? I will save whatever it takes to get the best thing for my CRX, even if it means saving up for a month to get like $1200 lol

Thanks guys!

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basic log mabifold is popular, but IMO get fullrace! http://www.full-race.com
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Default Re: Built B18A soon to be turbocharged, any pointers? (jonny05)

Yeah I actually just spent a bit looking into them seeing if they are prone to any types of failure. Have you heard of them ever cracking or anything like that? I realize that you get what you pay for, and for $1200 they are probably built very well; but you never know...
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If you are lookin at the full-race you can save a lil cash by going with the crfab mani. Check out this thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1060577

This is a buddy of mine, one of his first manifolds was put on a turbo ls hatch here in tyler, tx and it went 11.88 in the 1/4 running the same turbo you are looking at getting. This particular hatch made 275 whp and 250lbft of torque on 14 pounds and that was with stock internals...

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Dang, that is badass! So it ran in the 11's on stock internals with a SC34? Good Lord. I will look into that manifold, thanks for the link.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX_1.8T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anybody else with advise on an LS-T?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX_1.8T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anybody else with advise on an LS-T?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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If you got the money get a edelbrock victor x intake manifold. Good price and big gains up top in the rpm band. Look into getting one of those, I'm getting one for my ls-t.
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Thanks for the tip bro. I have been debating with myself which mani I should get (eventually). Would you happen to know how it compares to other manifolds?
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Dang, that is badass! So it ran in the 11's on stock internals with a SC34? Good Lord. I will look into that manifold, thanks for the link.

^^Dont know how to quote^^

But yeah he went 11's on stock internals. He did have a badass suspension setup and a nice size set of slicks.

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Was that with a non OBD engine like my LS or was it a B18B?
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Either way, 14 lbs is quite a bit for stock internals.
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Thats a nice setup..But what about the fuel management??

Get turboedit,walbro fuel pump,and some 800cc+ injectors..Thats a serious setup and will need some big injectors..

Victor-x is one of the best intake manifolds for turbo.And its priced right.

Also you should get the bottem end balanced while you have the **** apart..LS blocks love to vibrate..
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my "stock" turbo LS Civic made 253 hp, then I totaled it 2 years ago.

But I had a T3 60 trim, 9 lbs daily, 10 at the dyno, some cheap ebay wastegate, log style mani (paid a lot less than 1200, more like 200), cheap ebay BOV (worked great), Spearco IC, 450's and I used the AFC hack (yes I know, it's garbage, that's why I'm using uberdata this time).


I reccomend that you convert to obd1, but itf not there are a few programs out there for obd0 vehicles.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vegas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are lookin at the full-race you can save a lil cash by going with the crfab mani. Check out this thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1060577

This is a buddy of mine, one of his first manifolds was put on a turbo ls hatch here in tyler, tx and it went 11.88 in the 1/4 running the same turbo you are looking at getting. This particular hatch made 275 whp and 250lbft of torque on 14 pounds and that was with stock internals...

-veg</TD></TR></TABLE>

your friends AC manifold will blow out the seals on his customer's turbos
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Dang, thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I was planning on getting most of the stuff that you were talking about Mr. Speaker. And the bottom end has already been balanced (machine shop).

Thanks guys.


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