Ive decided not to build my own itr motor, ive decided to sell it and replace it with something else that is built.
Which would you choose?
AEBS gsr bored to 84mm (oringed)
84mm Ross pistons (9.1 compression)
Pauter Rods
Cosmetic head gasket
Basically a complete bottom end, not assembled, just needs bearings

or
Dart 84.5m standard height block (still not honed or cleaned out)
full race rods
84.5mm Cp pistons (9.1 compression)
GE head gasket
ill have to use everything off my itr motor now. (which means ill have less to sell)

The dart motor with what is listed comes out to be 250-300 dollars cheaper as it sits, but the dart motor isnt honed or cleaned yet..

Which would you choose?
Im leaning hard core toward the dart..

 

the dart
then use that 250-300 to hone and clean it (cant be too expensive)
thats gonna be one hell of a bottom end

 

dart block all the way... sounds pretty solid

but it also sounds like the other setup would be running sooner, I still say dart it...

 

theyll run about the same time actually..

im gonna buy the dart

i still want to know everybodys opinions

 

I just bought a
2000 itr head, with mild port and polish and 3 valve angle job
Supertech valves
Supertech valvesprings
Supertech Ti retainers..
Its soo clean

itll go on the dart nicely
When i get the stuff in, im gonna sell my stock itr head, and my itr block

wow the stress is almost over , now i gotta worry about getting it paided off

 

Talk to the guys at AEBS about that Dart block, and you might change your mind.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverSellout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Talk to the guys at AEBS about that Dart block, and you might change your mind.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and a competitor that is in the sleeving business is gonna give an honest opinion? haha please

 

if it were me, and i just built an h22 and couldnt be happier....


id send a block to benson via earl. grab some CP's from earl while you are there. and run full-race rods (or pauter if u really wanna spend the extra money for no reason ) and you'd have just about the nicest built motor u could buy


oh yeah, for sure go w/ oem bearings and all new seals, water and oil pump

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it were me, and i just built an h22 and couldnt be happier....


id send a block to benson via earl. grab some CP's from earl while you are there. and run full-race rods (or pauter if u really wanna spend the extra money for no reason ) and you'd have just about the nicest built motor u could buy


oh yeah, for sure go w/ oem bearings and all new seals, water and oil pump</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i am going with all the new stuff..
i was gonna send my motor to benson, but its better for me not to, reason is i can sell my stuff and get more back, then if i would build it.

 

what does AEBS say about the dart motors?

 

According to Paulus Lee, the mastermind behind AEBS, the Dart blocks are not cast in a manner that would make them as strong as a sleeved factory honda block.

 

dart definately

 

thats interesting what the AEBS guy has to say about it... but given where he's comming from, I would believe it more from some someone thats less biased.

anyone know how much heavier a dart block is?

 

dart = 67lbs, it says. it also says it has larger water jackets. and whatnot

 

go dart..that is a nice setup

 

interesting about dart block.

 

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so it weighs about the same as the aluminum block?? hmmm, I wonder how that works...

 

the dart is aluminum..

specs taken from Dartheads.com

" Material: 355-T6 Aluminum alloy
Block Style: Fits B16, B18, B20 (VTEC & non VTEC)
Bore: 81.5mm & 84.5mm (3.209” & 3.327”) unfinished
Bore & stroke: 85mm x 95mm (3.346” x 3.740”)
Cam Drive: 212mm deck = Stock belt drive
226mm deck = Belt available from Dart
Cylinder Wall Thickness: 6.35mm (.250”) min
Deck Height: 212mm & 226mm (8.346” & 8.898”)
Deck Thickness: 16mm (.625”) min.
Displacement: 2155 cc max (131 cu in)
Freeze Plugs: Threaded 3/4" NPT
Main bearing size: 55mm (2.165”)
Main bearing bore: 59mm (2.3228” – 2.3238”)
Main Bolts: 7/16” - 14
Main caps: Steel - 2 bolt w/dowels .003” press
Main thrust width: 21mm (.830”)
Oil system: Standard Honda
Oil Filter : Standard Filter
Oil Pan: Standard Oil Pan
Piston Oilers: Threaded holes are provided but can be plugged.
Rear Main Seal: Stock seal
Serial No.: Left rear on oil pan rail
Sleeves: Replaceable ductile iron dry sleeves
Sleeve OD: 87.63mm (3.450”)
Sleeve O.S.: + .010” & +.020” available
Sleeve thickness: 81.5mm bore = 3.065mm (.120”) / 84.5mm bore = 1.565mm (.062”)
Sleeve Length: 212mm deck = 114mm (4.50”) / 226mm deck = ??????
Studs, heads: Can use std Honda studs
Supplied parts: Dipstick tube, threaded oil filter mount, belt tensioner spring stud
Torque Specs: 1-5 7/16” bolts - 65 ft lbs
Weight: 67 lbs
"

 

thanks for the info bro... sorry to jack your thread.

damn I was under the impression dart blocks didn't need sleeves, as in it was solid iron or something... thats why I asked about the weight. it doesnt seem as appealing to me now, I'll have to research...