gsr x civic

so i've been doing some research on what kind of turbos will fit my gsr. . . but i still can't come to a conclusion on anything, really. i'm not very knowledgeable in "forced induction"(or much for that matter ), so please cut me some slack.

anyway, i have a civic with a gsr motor; intake, exhaust, vafc, p28, fuel reg, and that's pretty much it performance wise.

just lately i've been thinking about boosting, ever since i got to drive my cousin's dsm for a good half hour. i love how it felt anyway, i've been looking, and it seems that the small 16g or t3/t4's are the way to go. i'm unsure, please correct me if i'm wrong.

i'm not looking to get huge gains, just maybe another 50 or 100 hp, pretty much something noticeable.

anyway, my plan was getting a turbo, an fmic, and a bov. what other things do i need? turbo manifold, turbo header, pipings from the throttle body to connect to the intercooler then to the turbo, downpipe (what is that anyway), boost controller, and what else?

help would be appreciated

CRXdan

Fuel managment

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vafc isn't good enough?

A.E Motoring

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get a engine management, you wont even look twice a a vafc hack, i have a boosted gsr, on 10 pounds

gsr x civic

grammar please? sorry that didn't make any sense what so ever.

anyway, can anyone else help out?

A.E Motoring

iTrader: (1)

get something other than a vafc, get some injectors a fuel pump and a tuning management, like hondata,crome,uberdata, etc etc, im using a gsr motor on 10 pound of boost making 306, is that better for you to understand? a vafc is a like a half *** way of "tuning", plus i heard there are a bunch of problems that can go wrong, like start throwing codes and ****

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ooh. when i said grammar please, i didn't mean to come off bitchy. i just didn't really understand what you said. it didn't make any sense.

well i'm still trying to look for a turbo. . . i can't figure out what kind to get.

SlammedDC2

No matter what you do, you always want fuel management. A VAFC won't cut it. Get Hondata,crome, or uberdata like SPNFEDEH said. That will help out alot more than any VAFC ever will.

sp00led

Look into a used hondata S200 there going for cheap now days and work great. If your really broke u can go with chrome that seems to be the budget tuner method.

Both methods are going to require a chiped OBDI ecu.

gsr x civic

thanks a lot guys
what about a turbo? 16g? gt28rs? what kind?

i've been looking around and those are some of the choices and replies people gave. but other than that, everything i mentioned (things needed for the turbo) are correct right? all of those things are necessary?

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Tornadom

The gt28rs is an excellent turbo for a stock GS-R motor. It will spool up pretty quickly, yet still be able to support 300whp (maybe a little more if you get the t3 flanged version)

If you get a turbo, you will need the manifold, and a downpipe (the pipe that ties the turbo into the exhaust system) I have never heard of a turbo header, but other than that, you have all of the basics covered. Also, look into bigger fuel injectors, and a higher flowing fuel pump, and a good form of engine management.

KeyserSoze

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tornadom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you get a turbo, you will need the manifold, and a downpipe (the pipe that ties the turbo into the exhaust system) I have never heard of a turbo header, but other than that, you have all of the basics covered. Also, look into bigger fuel injectors, and a higher flowing fuel pump, and a good form of engine management.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same thing.

Just get a t3/t04e 57 trim. Use the .63 a/r if you dont mind the higher boost threshold (lag) and want more power than the .48 a/r can make. The gt28rs is a good turbo, but if you only want 50-100 more hp chances are that you will want more in the future. Buy something that will grow a bit with your wants. A gt28rs is a nice bit of change to spend and if it will not meed future goals then you would have to swap turbos later. PITA, trust me.

ps - don't forget oil lines, vacuum lines, oil fitting to feed turbo, couplers and t-bolt clamps.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KeyserSoze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Same thing.

Just get a t3/t04e 57 trim. Use the .63 a/r if you dont mind the higher boost threshold (lag) and want more power than the .48 a/r can make.
ps - don't forget oil lines, vacuum lines, oil fitting to feed turbo, couplers and t-bolt clamps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry i really don't know what you're talking about =[ i'm not very knowledgeable in forced induction. can you please tell me what that means? and where's a good place to get those extra lines?

slowdaintegra

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KeyserSoze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Same thing.

Just get a t3/t04e 57 trim. Use the .63 a/r if you dont mind the higher boost threshold (lag) and want more power than the .48 a/r can make. The gt28rs is a good turbo, but if you only want 50-100 more hp chances are that you will want more in the future. Buy something that will grow a bit with your wants. A gt28rs is a nice bit of change to spend and if it will not meed future goals then you would have to swap turbos later. PITA, trust me.

ps - don't forget oil lines, vacuum lines, oil fitting to feed turbo, couplers and t-bolt clamps.</TD></TR></TABLE>
all he is saying is that the gt28 is a lot of money and you will prolly want to have more hp in the lon run so get a bigger one

i was running a precision sc61 turbo on my car and i think is suports like 550 hp or more

WickedHonda00

t3/t4 57 trim .63A/R or SC60-1 turbocharger, which is perfect I think. Use large injectors like 750cc and Hondata. Works well, and you'll never have to upgrade the fuel system OTHER than a Walbro pump maybe. For now, I would go with a log manifold, tial wastegate and a normal sized intercooler, atleast until you've decided what you like and don't like about your power, turbo, boost, etc. There are too many things you've gotta find out by driving your car after it's turbo'ed to tell what exactly you need. Oh yeah, 7psi on SC60-1 will bring your power goals easily.

gsr x civic

what's this turbo's potential?

http://hondaswap.com/parts-sal...75273/

i might pick it up if it'll be worth it. the guy is asking 475.

help please?

01geeser

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1024174

there might be some useful reading in that thread for you if you are a noob to all this.


Modified by 01geeser at 3:06 AM 10/14/2006

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thanks reading right now.

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for the t3/t4, is there a smaller one than the 57 trim? or is that the "smallest" they go?

my main purpose for this turbo is i want a little more power (245whp is my goal) and i also want to autox this car.

what turbo would be good for midrange-top end power for my power goals?

LoseRPunKx182

there's a 50trim but i would go with a 57trim. there's too much information out there to make this thread. u should start reading the FI forum and search the archives. and i like this site http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yele....html

gsr x civic

oh that site is awesome.
i wonder if that'll work, instead of spending like 3k on the kit. . . maybe i could buy each thing separately :D

i'm still doing research, specifically right now on info for a 14b, because i have a good deal on one right now, and i'm looking into it to see what the potential on the turbo is.

unfortunately, i can only find information regarding the 14b in conjunction with d series motors, and NOT b series motors. i've been looking all over. i tried here, google, hondaswap, and other sites, but it's all d series info.

ChaseIntegra

Just go to http://www.full-race.com and look for a turbo kit

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lol.
anyway, i found a pretty decent turbo kit setup. it's an 18g.
so yeah. i've been doing research but i've had more questions come along. this is what i've decided as for now.

dsm 450cc injectors
walbro fuel pump

and that's all i've decided on actually doing for sure. but i still have a few questions. if that 450 isn't good enough or whatever, i do i determine how big the injectors need to be? i'm probably going to boost 7-9 lbs.

also, should i keep the vafc? or should i trash it completely? i don't know if taking this out will complicate matters, or if keeping it in will still keep my crossover point where it's at. i'm not going to tune with this if i keep it, i'd just keep it so that i could have my vtec crossover point set.

for an ecu, right now i have a p28chipped. i was thinking hondata or crome, but which one would be better for my situation?

for an fmu, a lot of people have been telling me it's NOT needed, just as long as i upgrade fuel pump / injectors.

thanks in advance

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